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The Corruption in the Election – Are We About to Cross the Rubicon
Centinel 2012 (David Pristash) ^ | JON VOIGHT

Posted on 11/13/2020 10:08:52 AM PST by Texas Fossil

Armstrong Ecomomics Blog/Politics Re-Posted Nov 13, 2020 by Martin Armstrong

JON VOIGHT

The allegations of fraud are coming in from so many sources it has indeed confirmed what our computer forecast and we warned a long time ago would be the most corrupt election in American history.

Already there have been postal workers coming forward testifying that the dates were altered on postmarks. In another 234 pages of sworn affidavits, there are chilling allegations of major fraud in this election from just ONE county in Michigan alone. These allegations are being made by EYEWITNESS who saw outrageous federal crimes that violate everyone’s civil rights in this country.

There were batches of ballots where 60% of them had the SAME signature. Other EYEWITNESS saw a batch of ballots scanned 5 times. Still, other EYEWITNESS came forward who saw 35 ballots counted that was NOT connected to a voter record. Then there were poll workers marking ballots with NO mark for candidates and another came forward to say their deceased son was recorded as voting TWICE. There are other witnesses coming forward stating that provisional ballots were placed in the tabulation box.

Then there is a question about the software that caused an error in Antrim County which was used in Wayne County. Republican challengers were not readmitted but Democrats were admitted. Republican challengers were physically pushed from counting tables by officials. Democrats gave out a packet: “Tactics to Distract Republican Challengers”

Unfortunately, this is not a normal election where simply a Democrat or Republican is elected who you did not vote for. In the past, it was really no big deal. This time, everything is different. They really intend to change the very foundation of America and the left never respects freedom for they will not tolerate opposition.

The nation is divided as deeply as it was for the Civil War. If the courts overturn this mess, the Democrats will claim Trump stole the election. They will do everything in their power to overthrow him if not have him assassinated. This is the battle for the very soul of America. It will be not much different from when Caesar crossed the Rubicon and the corrupt senate fled because the people would not support them.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: corruption; coup; election; fraud
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JON VOIGHT's video at the link. His feelings are conveyed very well.

It is well worth listening to, or reading.

1 posted on 11/13/2020 10:08:52 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

We left the rails of the Constitution on Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009.

Obama is not a natural born citizen.

They all knew as demonstrated by the resolution passed for McCain that cited his TWO citizen parents.


2 posted on 11/13/2020 10:14:32 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

You’re still full of it. Get an amendment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark


3 posted on 11/13/2020 10:26:03 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: calenel

Tell the Senators that

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

That John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born Citizen under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.


4 posted on 11/13/2020 10:28:40 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

So what you’re saying is you have to belong to a militia to bear arms?

Same argument.

What the Senate Resolution says is “stuff it!” It has no force of law and is merely asserting that some people (you) are propagating misinformation for political ends.

The SCOTUS ruling, however, establishes a precedent. Born here to parents that were legally here in a private capacity regardless of citizenship or residency status gets you NBC. You could fairly argue that if both parents were illegal aliens they had given up any claim to be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States by violating its immigration laws, but that was not the case for Obama (insofar as we have been able to prove), McCain, Cruz, Harris, and so on.

You need an amendment to overcome the Wong precedent. Otherwise you are just wasting everybody’s time. Focus on *this* election.


5 posted on 11/13/2020 10:40:24 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: calenel

Wong decided he was a citizen, not a natural born citizen.


6 posted on 11/13/2020 10:43:12 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: calenel

This election is being stolen.
So is the country from the citizens.
All set up by the Kenyan from Indonesia and his eight year reign of error.

The founders intent was to exclude foreigners from the office.
The children of foreigners are foreigners.


7 posted on 11/13/2020 10:45:25 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Texas Fossil

We don’t have elections. We have contests now. We see who can execute the best scheme to create and count ballots.

Those ballots may or may not have actual votes. Votes are irrelevant. Ballots are what matter, and you can create as many of those as you need.


8 posted on 11/13/2020 10:48:41 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: Texas Fossil

There is no such thing as “voter fraud”.

Ok, so, yeah, I may be partly wrong, because, there are many people who take it upon themselves to cheat, by voting multiple-times and in more than one state or district, or by casting votes for ‘deceased’ people, or by casting votes illegally (such as for/by foreigners)....

However...

Most fraud in elections, is done by elections officials and/or government officials and/or leaders in political parties. Without those in government and politics devising methods by which to cheat, most fraud by individuals would not be big enough to overcome the real will of most of the honest voters.

Perhaps it’s time to take elections away from politicians and government officials, and to have the public sector handle the whole thing, with oversight by ALL interested parties. Let the private sector, aka: the people, directly handle things. Any intervention, directly or indirectly, from government officials and political operatives, would be punishable by law.


9 posted on 11/13/2020 10:53:03 AM PST by adorno
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Wong acquired citizenship at birth. Just like you (presumably) and I did. There is no “born a citizen but not a natural-born citizen” class of citizenship. Make up new classes of citizen other than the two defined in the Constitution at your peril.

Wong’s parents were not citizens, nor even legally allowed to become naturalized citizens. Nevertheless the SCOTUS determined that Wong obtained birthright citizenship by virtue of being born within and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

Time to get over your delusion and move on to more relevant and useful efforts.


10 posted on 11/13/2020 10:54:18 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: calenel

Natural law dictates that only those who have no other citizenship are naturally Americans.
The founders rejected “citizen at birth” in favor of the more restrictive “natural born citizen”.


11 posted on 11/13/2020 10:58:54 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Prove that Obama was born in Kenya, or somewhere not the USA. Then you have a case, although I would not be surprised if that portion of the relevant law were determined to be unconstitutional in some fashion.

If you can’t, then you’re out of luck.

Stop being a petulant child.

“The founders intent was to exclude foreigners from the office.”

Agreed.

“The children of foreigners are foreigners.”

SCOTUS disagrees. The Constitution grants the power to decide who and how people are naturalized to Congress. If that’s at birth by virtue of being born on US soil, regardless of the status of the parents, then it is what it is. Even more so by virtue of there being a Constitutional amendment making it so.

Whining about it, unless you’re ready to do something about it, is stupid.

Get an amendment.


12 posted on 11/13/2020 11:05:37 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“Natural law dictates that only those who have no other citizenship are naturally Americans.”

So if Canada declares you to be a citizen via some arbitrary mechanism, you are n o longer a NBC?

Last I heard, the Constitution was the Law of the Land.

“The founders rejected “citizen at birth” in favor of the more restrictive “natural born citizen””

LOL, no they did not. They mean the same thing, and have since long before libs like you tried to redefine whichever words in the Constitution they needed to work around.


13 posted on 11/13/2020 11:09:06 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Get an amendment.

And explain to the troops stationed overseas serving their country with their families how their kids are not citizens.


14 posted on 11/13/2020 11:10:17 AM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: calenel

They are citizens, they are not natural born citizens.
Only one office requires it.


15 posted on 11/13/2020 11:33:56 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Texas Fossil

It is becoming apparent our court judges care little for the sworn statements of witnesses to ballot fraud. Just don’t try going outside with a mask. That really pisses off the judges and can get you in legal jeopardy. I would not be surprised to see us go the way of Great Britain, where you can be jailed without a lawyer for not bowing to left-wing orthodoxy. Lord, come back soon.


16 posted on 11/13/2020 12:51:15 PM PST by confederatecarpetbag
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To: FlipWilson

Some on this board dinged me for saying this, but we conservatives need to drop the pretense of high-toned principles if we wish to ever regain a voice in America. It is obvious that cheating is the “new honesty,” and it is institutionalized in our voting. That being the case, we need to rouse our conservative muster and practice to elevate cheating to a form of high art. There is no sense clinging to our principles. We must harvest ballots. Vote under aliases. Manufacture ballots. Gum up the system. What use are principles if we are brought to submission?


17 posted on 11/13/2020 2:27:57 PM PST by confederatecarpetbag
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To: confederatecarpetbag

I think what Trump is really trying to do here, is the plant the seeds of doubt, just as the Democrats did with “Russia, Russia, Russia”. Make people doubt Biden’s legitimacy, just as the Democrats did with Trump. I might add the Democrats have done this tactic with every GOP win since 2000. So it’s about damn time we throw it right back at them.

I hope Trump wins, but I realize that he may just be doing this to keep him in the game, and try to weaken Biden as much as he can, while he still has the power to do so.

This is The Trump Saga, and it may very well turn into a Trilogy.

To be continued...


18 posted on 11/13/2020 2:32:39 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: confederatecarpetbag

Quote: “That being the case, we need to rouse our conservative muster and practice to elevate cheating to a form of high art. There is no sense clinging to our principles. We must harvest ballots. Vote under aliases. Manufacture ballots. Gum up the system. What use are principles if we are brought to submission?”\

As someone wise used to say to me, the enemy gets a say in the battle. We can be as high minded as we want but what the Romney wing of the party fails to grasp is that they don’t get to define the rules of the game. Our enemies do and have.

They made this a race to the bottom. We are stuck with it.


19 posted on 11/13/2020 2:37:43 PM PST by FlipWilson
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To: adorno

“Perhaps it’s time to take elections away from politicians and government officials, and to have the public sector handle the whole thing, with oversight by ALL interested parties.”

A great idea and it would work.

But to get it implemented, you’re going to have to kill all the Democrats first.

Not that that’d be a bad thing.


20 posted on 11/13/2020 2:38:31 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (I did not leave my country, my country left me)
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