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Jonathan Turley Weighs in With Perfect Analogy of Why We Haven't Seen Systemic Election Fraud; YET
Red State ^ | 11/12/2020 | Mike Miller

Posted on 11/12/2020 5:16:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/12/2020 5:16:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Turley, a real liberal concerned with your civil rights. A dying breed.


2 posted on 11/12/2020 5:19:30 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: SeekAndFind

“We want to investigate.”
“Do you have proof that people are guilty of a crime?”
“No. That’s why we want to investigate.”
“Sorry. You cannot begin an investigation until you have proof of someone’s guilt.”


3 posted on 11/12/2020 5:20:52 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hopefully justice will come soon. I remember hearing somewhere “God’s justice is like a mill stone, grinding slowly but extremely fine”.


4 posted on 11/12/2020 5:21:15 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: KC_Conspirator

Well said.


5 posted on 11/12/2020 5:27:10 PM PST by trublu
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To: SeekAndFind

I read there are literally dozens of volunteer tech and cyber types combing open source voter data bases and providing facts to the trump legal team

Like this. Over 109,000 mail votes logged and counted...before the ballots were mailed.

https://newstarget.com/2020-11-12-fraudulent-ballots-pennsylvania-received-before-mailed-out.html

That dump alone if tossed as fraud gives Trump the lead

Other volunteers were tracking down and calling every voter over age 100 that voted


6 posted on 11/12/2020 5:28:17 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Forget systematic it does not have to be systematic to be fraud.


7 posted on 11/12/2020 5:29:58 PM PST by Boardwalk (Lets)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump needs to issue spoliation of evidence letters en mass to put them on official notice.

It’s a criminal offense to destroy evidence, including deleting electronic data, ballots or emails.


8 posted on 11/12/2020 5:37:13 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: ClearCase_guy

But, four years ago:

“We want to investigate.”
“Do you have proof that Trump is guilty of a crime?”
“No. That’s why we want to investigate.”
“Okay. You investigate until you have proof of his guilt.”


9 posted on 11/12/2020 5:39:34 PM PST by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

I think we found a Unicorn—somebody with no axe to grind.


10 posted on 11/12/2020 5:41:40 PM PST by cgbg ( Remember 1876--we _can_ do this!)
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To: tired&retired

“Trump needs to...”

All day, I’m hearing this.
For the past five years I’m hearing this.

Here’s how Trump operates. He gathers information on people on events on issues.

Trump said “we won the election and I won’t allow them to steal it.”

Period. Take it to the bank, your bookie, let it be the statement that helps you sleep at night.

However he does it, that is what will happen.


11 posted on 11/12/2020 5:45:03 PM PST by stanne
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To: KC_Conspirator

“Turley, a real liberal concerned with your civil rights. A dying breed.”

Perhaps more of a classical liberal who is not a social conservative.

I’ll take him over Dershowitz any day. Speaking of which, Dershowitz seems to have disappeared.


12 posted on 11/12/2020 5:46:26 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

Classic liberal was the other description I was going to use.


13 posted on 11/12/2020 5:48:37 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: SeekAndFind

Obviously I don’t now how this is going to come out, but we all now that the deep divide in this country is not goint the change. Either way, 70+ million people are going to be mad as hell. As a thought experiment, ask yourself “Who would it be better to piss off, those who don’t care if cheating and fraud occurred as long as they win and who will riot and burn the country if they lose? Or, those who demand honest and fair elections, which in this case also means their guy would be declared the winner?”.

Since the baby cannot be split, it is clear that the best interest of the country is served if the courts take whatever actions are needed (i.e. tossing out a lot of ballots) because restoring confidence in our election process is more important than who wins the Presidency.

If Trump is the winner, the other side will wreak havoc. If Biden wins, what will our side do?

It’s a good question...and I’m not interested in blather about “CWII” etc - but what WILL actual people who voted for Trump DO?


14 posted on 11/12/2020 5:51:24 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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To: SeekAndFind

Besides Turley, does anyone know of another moderate or left-leaning individual who’s willing to acknowledge that a teensy amount of fraud might actually exist? I’m certainly not aware of any other.


15 posted on 11/12/2020 5:55:11 PM PST by splash73
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To: KC_Conspirator

“Classic liberal was the other description I was going to use.”

He might even make a decent attorney general during Trump’s second term. Or some kind of watchdog role.


16 posted on 11/12/2020 6:05:33 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: stanne

I’m retired now, but I was a Forensic CPA and fraud investigator for 40 years.

As a litigation consultant, I prepared the cases for court, advising attorneys and providing expert testimony.


17 posted on 11/12/2020 6:05:47 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: splash73

Rod Blagovich.


18 posted on 11/12/2020 6:11:32 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: splash73

Hasn’t Hillary for all intents and purposed claimed she lost due to it?


19 posted on 11/12/2020 6:14:48 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: tired&retired

records of federal elections must be kept 22 months


20 posted on 11/12/2020 6:23:02 PM PST by rolling_stone (shime...)
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