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1 posted on 09/26/2020 10:25:19 AM PDT by re_tail20
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Here’s the DHS link.

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id


2 posted on 09/26/2020 10:25:59 AM PDT by re_tail20
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Goodie! Does this mean we can ask for ID to vote?...


3 posted on 09/26/2020 10:29:31 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats donate to bail money. Republicans donate to scholarships. ~ throwthebumsout)
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Arizona is still not allowing existing drivers license holders to apply for a Real ID compliant license - due to “COVID concerns” - so the intent may be there but in practice many states are still a long way off from implementation.


4 posted on 09/26/2020 10:31:32 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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It only took 19 years, yea government efficiency. And I know that in some states it’s more “compliant”. AZ you can a normal DL or a RealID compliant DL. So we’re only compliant for the folks that brought the right paperwork and spent the extra $s.


5 posted on 09/26/2020 10:32:05 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick)
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This doesn’t mean much if anyone can just waltz right in and vote without showing any ID at all.

Every time I vote I do it without showing any ID at all. Some senior citizen lady sitting behind a table always says “Yes, I know him.” I don’t know her. There is no way she knows me. It’s crazy.

Meanwhile when I voted in a union election I had to produce valid ID, even if the guy working the door was my best friend.


7 posted on 09/26/2020 10:39:10 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Yeah except you can’t get a new license here because of COVID.


10 posted on 09/26/2020 10:43:24 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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I heard the Real ID deadline was pushed back to Oct. 1, 2021, as far as asking for a Real ID compliant form of ID to be used to get on an airplane or enter a federal facility.


11 posted on 09/26/2020 10:55:14 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Congratulations - we all have official papers.

Next they’ll ALLOW us to put them on our phones and, bam, 24/7 monitoring by the state, comrade


12 posted on 09/26/2020 11:01:38 AM PDT by Skywise
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California DMV story...

I’ve been meaning to get my RealID for a while. I also lost my handicap placard (just got a new knee after the dogs hit me from behind and dislocated it) so I figured I may as well get that replaced.

I dutifully filled out all the forms, checked the DMV website for waiting time - 0 minutes for an appt, 30 minutes for no Appt. The RealID paperwork stated that if you have all the forms filled out, you just have to go straight to the appt. line. I get there and there’s a line with ~25 people outside. No instructions/information. I asked someone if this was the line for no appts she said “this is the line”. A DMV person came out and when I asked about going to the appt line she said, “we’re not doing appts because of COVID everyone has to wait in the same line.” Does this make any sense? Wouldn’t appts ensure spacing etc rather than a frikkin’ cattle call in the heat/smoke? Wouldn’t putting a banner up on the DMV website explaining the new process? Wouldn’t it make sense to take the expected waiting times off the website temporarily? They have a big banner announcing how you can make appts, could they put up some useful information?

I waited in the 91 deg heat/humidity and smoke (this was in the Bay Area during the fires). Finally get in the lobby after 50 minutes. They have a “special” person to help check you in and wite your number on a piece of paper…he asked what I was there for, I told him I was there to get my RealID and my handicap placard replaced and he froze and said “we’re only allowed to process one transaction at a time, you can get back in line after you finish the first one” WTF!?!?! Are you kidding me?!?!?!?!

So I go to my socially distanced chair to wait patiently. After ~25 minutes, I was noticing that a whole bunch of people who were behind me in line outside kept getting called up to the windows. I went to find my special friend to see if my number was somehow overlooked. He said “those people were waiting a long time. You don’t work here but we really keep track of all you people and your waiting.” No point in arguing…finally get called to window. I told the gal I was there for my RealID and to get my placard replaced. She froze and then said “We’re only allowed to process one transaction at a time. A lot of people are waiting so we don’t want to make them wait longer by doing 2 transactions for one person.” WTF???

The DMV is always mobbed, on this day it looked to me like there was 1/3 the amount of people who would normally be held captive in the god forsaken waiting room. So, it’s more efficient to have people go through the line twice to get their business done?!?!? I asked what I should do to get the placard replaced. She just shrugged her shoulders. I asked if I should mail it in. She said “yes, or you can just drop it off in the express box over there.” I almost dropped the form in until I realized there’s probably a fee so if I put it in without one, it would get tossed in the circular file without any notification to me...I paid my $37 fee with a 2.8% transaction fee tacked onto it…..

Also, not a hand sanitizer, wipe or spray bottle in sight….not like real businesses who have minions wiping everything down and keeping everything clean.

Later my husband told me that they only have 1 window that can process RealIDs…..WTF?!?!?! It took 2+ hrs…what an ordeal. With Covid, every frikkin’ business in America has tried to figure out how to cope and pivot to the new normal to stay in business, not the DMV, they’ve actually figured out a way to make the process even more plodding and miserable than before. They even closed the offices the previous to “conserve energy”…..nice gig if you don’t mind selling your soul to massive, mind-numbing, soul-sucking inefficiency…absolutely zero incentive to become more efficient.

My guess is that this is exacly how the post office is run. Watch out America for those California values…..my slogan is “Mobs or Jobs, your choice”

California is burning down, as usual. Don’t worry, glamorous Gavin said it’s unacceptable for the power to get turned off when it’s too hot or too windy or not windy enough and he’s going to look into it. Nuke the Dems!


18 posted on 09/26/2020 11:22:47 AM PDT by TMD (Behind Enemy Lines (SF bay area)....)
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Now it must be compliant to be able to vote.


22 posted on 09/26/2020 11:35:30 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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But we still have people hiring all those illegal aliens.


23 posted on 09/26/2020 11:37:32 AM PDT by thecodont
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Real ID is the wet dream of centralists, internationalists, socialists and bureaucrats.

The obsession of control over others is an ugly one.


30 posted on 09/26/2020 12:22:43 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All men and women were created by the, you know, you know, the thing." -- Joe Biden 3/3/20)
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You have to love FAKE NEWS. The headline implies one thing and the details another.

I live in WA State and have just gotten the Enhanced Drivers License that is “Real ID.” I also use a US Passport when in doubt for “Real ID.” The “normal State Driver's License and ID cards are not “Real ID.”

From the federal DHS website:

“......Requirements of the Act and implementing regulation, DHS will issue a Final Determination of Compliance to the state.
Q. Can jurisdictions meeting the standards of REAL ID continue to issue non-compliant REAL ID driver’s licenses and identification cards?

A. Yes. REAL ID allows jurisdictions to issue identification cards and driver’s licenses that are not in compliance with the requirements of the Act. Those licenses and identification cards, however, must clearly state on their face and in the machine readable zone that the card is not acceptable for official purposes.
Q. If my state issues an Enhanced Driver’s Licenses, is that sufficient for my state to be REAL ID compliant?

A. State Enhanced Driver’s Licenses (EDL) designated as acceptable border-crossing documents by DHS under the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) are acceptable for official Federal purposes (i.e., boarding a commercial aircraft, accessing a Federal facility, or entering a nuclear power plant). However the existence of an EDL is not sufficient to consider the state to be in overall compliance for purpose of determining whether a Federal agency may accept a state’s regular driver’s license for official purposes. For example, a Federal agency could accept an EDL issued from a state but not be able to accept a standard driver’s license from that same state..........”

33 posted on 09/26/2020 12:49:15 PM PDT by Robert357
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Yet the democrats will let in the rest of the world to destroy our nation.


35 posted on 09/26/2020 1:19:01 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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I just made an appointment to renew my Oregon drivers license. The appt is on November 24. No appts are available at the two DMV offices closest to me. I need to travel 35 miles to the third closest office.

Meanwhile, my current license expires on Oct 25.


36 posted on 09/26/2020 1:34:51 PM PDT by jimtorr
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