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1 posted on 09/22/2020 7:55:17 AM PDT by w1n1
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The US Airforce didn’t exist in WWII.

“During World War 2 you were more likely to die as a member of the U.S. Air Force than as a member of the U.S. Marine Corps...”


2 posted on 09/22/2020 8:00:12 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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later


3 posted on 09/22/2020 8:06:23 AM PDT by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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#1 The B17 really sucked. The Mosquito could have done a much better job. But that’s war business.

#2 The Japanese’s fate was sealed after Coral Sea and Midway. They didn’t have a ghosts chance in hell. They were just stubborn little bastards.


4 posted on 09/22/2020 8:07:23 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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Interesting. To think too that just the other day Joe Biden said “200 million US citizens died from Covid-19” and that was just during his talk. lol


8 posted on 09/22/2020 8:23:23 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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There where hardly any heavy bomber ETO missions in 1942. By 1944 they upped the mission tour to 35 because 25 was doable.


11 posted on 09/22/2020 8:40:32 AM PDT by lodi90
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4. Bomber crews were signed on to do 25 mission tours but what most didn’t know was that from 1942-1943 air losses were so common that it became statistically impossible for a bomber to complete a full tour


Not true!!

Stepdad (USAAF, languages: English, French, Italian, Lithuanian) as Bombardier completed several full missions including Ploesti raids. B-24, 343 Bomb Squadron , 98th Bomb Group, Pyramidiers with Colonel John ‘Killer’ Kane, assigned 9th, 12th and 15th AF. 43 combat missions, 247 combat hours. Many medals, including the Distinguished Flying Cross.

Shot down twice - once repatriated by Serb Resistance, another time rescued after floating on raft in the Med for a week. Sole survivor both times.

Buried Arlington, full honors:
At burial service: one chaplain, one personal representative, one Arlington Lady, one Arlington Lady escort, one Observer, one Guard at attention on site, eight Flag bearers (six flag bearers, or head bearer, and one Air Force honor bearer), 21 marching band soldiers, 1 caisson pulled by 7 horses, 4 horsemen, 8 body bearers,and one bugler to play Taps.

Over 70,000 USAAF were killed in WWII.


12 posted on 09/22/2020 8:44:48 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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A Downed Japanese Pilot Was Welcomed onto U.S. Territory Japanese pilot Shigenori Nishikaichi, among those who bombed Pearl Harbor, crash-landed onto Hawaii. The locals, unaware that the Japanese had just set off hostilities with their country, welcomed the enemy fighter graciously, offering him breakfast and even throwing him a luau—with Nishikaichi grabbing a guitar and treating the crowd to a traditional Japanese song.

There is so much more to this story. The pilot then tried to take over the island and held it's inhabitants at gunpoint with the help of collaborators that were ethnic Japanese but living on the island.

This is one of the events that convince president Roosevelt to issue the executive order interning the Japanese.

Here's the details:

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/pearl-harbor-japanese-pilot-crash-landed-hawaiian-island-tried-occupy.html

14 posted on 09/22/2020 8:50:25 AM PDT by pfflier
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Bomber crews were signed on to do 25 mission tours but what most didn’t know was that from 1942-1943 air losses were so common that it became statistically impossible for a bomber to complete a full tour.

This is absolute BS. The crews quickly figured out that they couldn't statistically survive 25 missions. The morale was plummeting.

That is one reason why Jimmy Doolittle was sent to take over the 8th Air Force from Eaker.

Doolittle changed tactics and the air war changed in favor of the bomber crews to the point where the mission count for rotation was upped to 30 then 35 missions by the end of the war

17 posted on 09/22/2020 9:00:49 AM PDT by pfflier
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2. Another horrific face when the Russians moved through open fields they would force convicts to walk ahead of the troops and tanks. This often cost the convicts their lives but it would spare the Russian army and allow them to continue to advance.

Those were members of Penal Battalions - you screw up: show cowardice, political non-compliance, etc. and you were sent to them. They went in first to set off the anti-personnel mines and other no-chance operations. Those that survived one battle were sent back to the "relative safety" of front-line infantry.

In the '80s I worked with some anti-Khomeini Iranians who had a bootleg tape about the Iraq-Iran war. It showed Australian doctors trying to fix hundreds of children blinded in the war.

Khomeini sent them, with their parents' blessings, to fight the Iraquis. They went in ahead of the infantry, waving their little green books of Khomeini's sayings, tripping the ping mines as they went along. The ping mines were set to explode waist high on a man, so the kids, being shorter, caught the blast in their upper bodies, hence all the blindness.

21 posted on 09/22/2020 9:27:17 AM PDT by Oatka
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A Downed Japanese Pilot Was Welcomed onto U.S. Territory Japanese pilot Shigenori Nishikaichi, among those who bombed Pearl Harbor, crash-landed onto Hawaii. The locals, unaware that the Japanese had just set off hostilities with their country, welcomed the enemy fighter graciously, offering him breakfast and even throwing him a luau—with Nishikaichi grabbing a guitar and treating the crowd to a traditional Japanese song.

Not sure this is accurate. I don't usually cite Wikipedia as a source, but you can read its account of the "Niihau Incident" here.

25 posted on 09/22/2020 9:48:40 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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“2. Another horrific face when the Russians moved through open fields they would force convicts to walk ahead of the troops and tanks. This often cost the convicts their lives but it would spare the Russian army and allow them to continue to advance.”

Nope. Per Russian and Ukrainian sources it was common practice to empty towns and cities of all civilians and force them to march in front of the Soviet army to clear mine fields and expend German ammo. The CCP used this same tactic in Korea with their ‘volunteer army’ advancing in from of the PLA.


31 posted on 09/22/2020 10:15:00 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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5. The massive Japanese submarine I-401 ...even had three folded up bombers secured inside the sub...but instead the behemoth of a sub ended up at the bottom of the ocean.

After the war. The US and USSR agreed to share captured Japanese technology. When the time came for the sub to be examined by the Soviets, it had an "accident" at sea, and sank.

51 posted on 09/22/2020 1:29:20 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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bkm


54 posted on 09/22/2020 2:24:04 PM PDT by JonPreston
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I’ve read that Hitler stopped at Dunkirk allowing for the evacuation as a peace overture to Churchill. Any thoughts?


55 posted on 09/22/2020 2:26:25 PM PDT by JonPreston
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https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/operation-cherry-blossoms-night.html

Planned attack on San Diego.


56 posted on 09/22/2020 2:44:57 PM PDT by lizma2
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5. For those that think being in the Air Force was better than being a grunt, listen this fact. During World War 2 you were more likely to die as a member of the U.S. Air Force than as a member of the U.S. Marine Corps. Pilots were required to complete 30 missions but the odds of dying before completing those 30 missions was 71%.

Not to be picky, but IIRK, there was no U.S. Air Force during WWII. It was the U.S.A.A.F.

64 posted on 09/23/2020 5:35:51 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ $0.05 cents a can.)
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The Arsenal of Democracy Flyover is scheduled to happen around 11:30 a.m. this Friday, Sept. 25. The WWII aircraft will fly down the Potomac from the north, over the Key, Roosevelt and Memorial bridges, and down the National Mall.


69 posted on 09/23/2020 1:34:30 PM PDT by lizma2
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