Posted on 09/20/2020 5:37:41 AM PDT by USA Conservative
Show us the evidence. I presume you are talking about the Breonna Taylor case, but simply have the spelling wrong.
I haven't seen any of what you are alleging about Breonna Taylor case, with her being fired, or selling drugs from her ambulance, renting houses for a drug gang, or renting cars for drug runners.
It may be true, but I would like to see it documented.
Anyone know what the image on the perp’s tee shirt is?
I know what the article says. I’d still like to see a better picture of the shirt, but I can’t find one anywhere.
The man was apparently a BLM supporter, but it’s a separate question as to whether the shootings were some kind of political statement. If the shootings were truly random - i.e., not triggered by a barroom dispute or personal grudge - that (a political motivation) remains a distinct possibility.
The police didn’t pay the cash...the taxpayers did.
This is NOTHING compared to a black NASCAR driver thinking he saw a noose ...
Take a deep breath and get real...if it doesn’t hurt white liberal ‘elites’ its NOT a crime that matters.
The New York Times and Washington Post are yawning...
Now if a Trump supporter had killed three Biden supporters - it would be front page above the fold in every newspaper in the country...
As a veteran of that war I was a first hand witness to the BS the media put out. And paid attention to Watergate.
Nixon was a choir boy compared to Bill Clinton, which gave Watergate and Nixon a different context, in that this guy was a good President. He successfully ended the Vietnam War with a negotiated peace due to our military victory only to have the Democrats lose the war by defunding the South Vietnamese.
The democrats have been communists since the 60’s cultural revolution. They and their MSM partners are just now showing their full colors and are proud of it.
Proof that some people like racism the act of it or the profit from it.
I haven’t seen any of what you are alleging about Breonna Taylor case, with her being fired, or selling drugs from her ambulance, renting houses for a drug gang, or renting cars for drug runners.
It may be true, but I would like to see it documented.
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You won’t likely see this information for a while but 3 different LEO’s from 3 different agencies have told me the same thing, one them said she was a suspect in a murder investigation, she is suspected of killing another woman.
She was not the saint she is being made out to be.
You likely haven’t heard that George Floyd had nearly 4 time the amount of Fentanyl necessary to cause death in his system alone with other drugs. George killed himself. You probably did’t know that George Floyd said he couldn’t breath 9 times before saying it with a knee to his neck. You probably didn’t know that George Floyd begged to be allow to lie on the ground. You probably didn’t know that Fentanyl kills you by making it difficult or impossible to breath.
When you only get news that is handed to you by the powers that be you will only get what they want you to hear. Truth is often hard to find.
I am not trying to sound rude, I’m just tired of the lies.
I have not read any of the claims you are saying about the Breonna Taylor case.
Lies can come from any source.
Just because most of the "Black Lives Matter" cases, such as George Brown in Ferguson, or Trayvon Martin in Florida, are based on fraud and lies, does not mean all are.
Abuse of no-knock warrants is real, even if the claims of "systemic racism" are not.
For example, it turns out she was an Emergency Room Technician, not an EMT.
There is dispute whether her boyfriend actually shot the police officer, or if it were friendly fire.
It turns out she was shot in the hallway, not in bed.
I’ve tried to track down that information too, with no luck. This appears to be an equal opportunity murder. At least one victim was white, one black. The owner is white.
The owner says there was nothing political about it- it was just random. Hard to know with so little information. It may have been a blm guy- but we don’t KNOW. I hesitate to label it- not every murder is political.
I could not agree with you more on no knock warrants, I believe they are forbidden by the constitution and think the same way that Rand Paul does, I hope he is successful.
I suggest you look up and listen to all the jail phone calls from Taylors drug runners and then make up your mind about her.
With all that being said and her being guilty as Hell of some serious crimes, I don’t agree with executions by cop without a trial, but, when you roll in the dirt you are bound to get some on you. She was doing some extreme rolling in the dirt. She has to have a lot of the responsibility for what happened to her. While her death was not entirely her fault, it wouldn’t have happened if HER drug running boyfriend hadn’t been shooting at cops, but it likely wouldn’t have happened without a no knock warrant. By the way the cops and neighbors say they knocked and announced themselves a long time before they went in. I don’t know the truth of that, it will likely come out but there is no way if I were a citizen of Louisville, (fortunately I live in the next county over) that I would want to be paying out twelve million dollars to the family of a criminal who got killed because she was a criminal associating with criminals who decided to shoot at police.
No. LMPD were already inside, had already identified themselves, and found Walker and Taylor crouched side-by-side at the end of the hallway leading to the bedrooms, when Walker opened fire on Officer Mattingly.
"None hit the boyfriend, but several hit Breonna and killed her in her bed."
Taylor was not in her bed.
"I have followed it."
Really? REALLY?
The no-knock warrant was valid. You may disagree with no-knock warrants, but on the night of March 13, this warrant had the full weight of Kentucky statutory law, signed by Jefferson Circuit Judge Mary Shaw.
From USA Today, the Gannett cage liner that also owns the Courier-Journal: "We rate the claim that officers did not have a warrant to enter Taylor's apartment as FALSE".
Taylor was named because the target -- Jamarcus Glover -- was her ex-boyfriend. Glover was arrested that same night for trafficking and firearm offenses.
According to the warrant, "Glover had been seen getting a package from Taylor's home in January and driving to a "known drug house."
The USPS postal inspector said, "a different agency had asked in January to look into whether Taylor's home was receiving suspicious mail", but that was never the question. The question was, was Glover was picking up packages from Taylor's apartment, and that answer was 'yes', as Glover had repeatedly been witnessed by LMPD as "making frequent trips" to and from Taylor's address, which LMPD backed up with video.
BTW, that postal inspector has gone off the grid.
A month later, LMPD executed another successful no-knock against Glover and filed additional trafficking charges.
On the night of March 13, the officers repeatedly knocked and announced themselves. The idea that Walker and Taylor thought it was a home invasion is bullshit -- what kind of home invasion knocks repeatedly; further, there is already testimony from a Taylor neighbor on the night of March 13 who badgered the police to, "leave that girl alone":
"As police prepared to serve the warrant, a man appeared on an outside staircase and began arguing with officers and telling them to "leave that girl alone or something like that," Mattingly told investigators on March 25. The neighbor "was being belligerent," Mattingly said. "I don't know why. I mean, I don't know if he was drunk or what. But he was being very hostile from the get-go. As soon as the contact was made he was just arguing back."
"There was probably six or seven different contacts of multiple banging on the doors and after that each one of them had, 'Police! Come to the door. Search warrant.'" - Mattingly, who said he knocking and yelling while Hankison also was yelling that police were serving a search warrant.
"After he entered the apartment, Mattingly said he stepped out from the doorway and then saw a man and a woman "perpendicular to each other, side by side shoulder to shoulder." Neither said a word, he said."My brain was going: What is this, you know? This isn't normal. It's not the normal way people stand in a house together," he said. The man, Walker, was in a "shooting stance," he said.
Inside the apartment, Mattingly said he could "see enough to see a male on the right, a female on the left. Could I identify their faces? No. But I could actually see the handgun in his hand. I remember seeing the barrel of that soon as we turned that corner. And as soon as it did, the flash and the heat.
After he was hit in the leg, Mattingly said, he fired four rounds before trying to leave the apartment. He said he did not see anyone else fire shots, although he heard them once he was in the parking lot."
So that you are completely aware of the facts, twang, no one disputes Walker fired first, hitting Officer Mattingly near the femoral artery, nearly killing him (he spent 3 days in the hospital). Walker then dived out of the way, knowing the police would return fire.
Jefferson County Prosecutor Thomas Wine has specifically stated he would not "rule out the possibility of filing charges again after the FBI and other agencies had completed their reviews of the shooting."
Now, let's cut to the chase. You want to know what kind of low-life Walker is?
Walker was indicted by a Jefferson County GJ for attempted murder in zero time, and just as quickly, the indictment was dismissed by Wine -- who is now trying to cover his ass desperately. He had dreams of being Mayor L O F L.
Conrad and the police union pilloried Judge Olu Stevens (who is - wait for it ... African-American) for releasing Walker on home incarceration, and the result? Conrad was out on his ass.
Now as for Saint Breonna. After dropping out of the University of Kentucky, she found a job with the City of Louisville from Jan16 - Nov16, in training. She was an EMT from Jun16 - Nov16. Five months. Five. Freaking. Months.
She called in her resignation on Nov 16. Called it in.
Additionally, WAVE3 reported more embarassing details surrounding Saint Breonna's termination that were erased and memory-holed in 12 hours. Suffice it to say, she was booted from emergency service work. Permanently.
Relatives said after Saint Breonna's firing as an EMT, she had worked 2 hospitals as as ER techician. However, Bianca Austin, Taylor’s aunt, said Walker had just accepted a job to work at UPS.
UPS? UPS pays max $12 hr to start for box slingers - they have exactly one nurse on staff, so St. B be slinging boxes. ER techs with EMT cert should be making $18-$20 in Louisville hospitals and even more for overnight shifts.
Damn, dude, I wasted 1000 words on that moron for what you captured in one graf.
Supposedly it's all coming down Monday or Tuesday -- Mattingly no bill, Cosgrove some weak charge.
You mean ‘a far right wing militant’ Trump supporter.
But the Biden supporters are never ‘far left wing rioting arsonist’ Biden supporters. They’re just ‘peaceful protesters’ with no political affiliation mentioned.
The media needs to be fixed. The media is 75% of the problem in this country. People are too easily led, too easily swayed (just look at all the idiots walking around in masks, thinking it does some good) and the media poisons the minds of those who can’t or won’t think for themselves.
Your sources give some interesting details.
But they don’t confirm that Breonna was dealing drugs. All they confirm is that she allowed a former boyfriend to have some packages delivered to her address. No one has disputed that.
It has always been clear the current boyfriend (the Walker with Breonna) fired first.
If you can provide any convictions for either Breonna or that Walker, I would like to see them.
You are correct that Breonna was not in bed when she was shot.
Much of what you are claiming is conjecture, or disputed.
“The idea that Walker and Taylor thought it was a home invasion is bullshit — what kind of home invasion knocks repeatedly;”
Home invaders knocking repeatedly is common. Lots of times they are on drugs. They often think demons are chasing them. They often hope to get the people inside to open the door. Sometimes they are people with a grudge. Sometimes they look around to find something to break down the door with. Sometimes they use a decoy. Sometimes they are at the wrong address.
Your claims are interesting, certainly. I have seen a lot of narratives get turned around with better information.
The fact that no one can locate the “postal inspector” is a red flag for the warrant.
“BTW, that postal inspector has gone off the grid.”
That is weird. Federal employees seldom just disappear. They should be able to back up the warrant claims without going public.
It should not be hard to show the postal inspector exists.
It is pretty bad if police are falsifying information for use on warrants. There is a felony murder charge for that ongoing in Houston.
I never disputed a warrant was issued for the address. There is a dispute about what was heard at the scene. It is a matter of subjective experience, not fact.
The police may be correct that they yelled “police”, maybe numerous times.
Walker may be correct in saying they never heard anything but the banging on the door.
The two statements do not rule each other out.
The other officers testimony will probably back up Mattingly’s testimony.
How about the neighbor who talked to them? Where is his testimony? I fail to see what the neighbor, after midnight, arguing with the police, has to do with anything. All it shows is the neighbor knew they were police.
If anything, he should be able to back up Mattingly’s testimony.
I would like to hear the neighbor’s side of events.
Mattingly’s testimony does not appear to back up this statement:
“No. LMPD were already inside, had already identified themselves, and found Walker and Taylor crouched side-by-side at the end of the hallway leading to the bedrooms, when Walker opened fire on Officer Mattingly.”
Listening to Mattingly, It is pretty clear, he is the only one inside, and he had barely got inside when he was shot.
He returned fire with about four shots, then was already back outside, probably in less than two seconds from the door being breached. I did not hear him mentioning anything about Walker and Breonna being “crouched”. Only that they were shoulder to shoulder and Walker had his arms extended in a shooting stance.
Exactly what you might expect if Walker and Breonna suspected home invaders.
It is not clear if anyone but Mattingly ever cleared the threshold of the apartment before the first shot was fired.
According to Mattingly’s testimony, as I heard it, the shooting occurred almost simultaneously with the police breaking down the door. It appears only one officer was inside, and he was inside very briefly.
If that is disputed, please clarify.
Mattingly says one officer thought he could hear someone inside, before the door was breached, but he could not make out what he was hearing.
Walker says Breonna was shouting “Who is there?”
This implies a lack of ability of either side to know who was on the other side of the door.
One of the big problems in this case is the lack of credibility of the police, because they did not wear cameras. Procedures have been chanced and cameras will be required.
The lack of a postal inspector to back up their warrant claims does not help.
Yes, the prosecutor said he might renew charges against Walker when all the evidence is in.
I recall that from reports a while back.
I do not see it as particularly significant. It all rests on whether Walker reasonably knew the people breaking into the apartment were police.
The statement by Walker that Breonna fired the shot is interesting.
I listened to his testimony (thanks for the link). He does not sound as convincing as officer Mattingly. On the other hand, the idea that someone would not want to tell an officer they had just shot at officers, is not improbable.
Of course, everybody can lie, and there is plenty of reason for people to lie in this case.
Mattingly sounded convincing to me, so he adds a bit of detail which helps explain the case better.
It seems clear shots were fired from outside of the apartment to the inside; only one shot seems to have been fired at the police.
If you have details to show this summation of the shots is incorrect, (Walker fires ones shot; then Mattingly fires four shots inside the apartment, then multiple more shots, about 18 or so, are fired from outside the apartment by the police) I would like to see them.
There are reasons for that kind of response. When one officer fires, others tend to fire in sympathy, to back him up.
It is a difficult “shoot - no shoot” situation.
It looks bad after the fact.
Thanks for the links.
To me, one of the most troubling aspects of this case is Attorney Crump’s involvement. He has lied repeatedly in other case.
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