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REVEALED: Russia Has been Paying Taliban to Kill US Soldiers Since 2014 – During Obama Years!
Gateway Pundit ^
| 07/02/2020
| Jim Hoft
Posted on 07/02/2020 8:27:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Democrats, their liberal media, Never-Trump RINOs and Liz Cheney are very upset to hear Russia has been paying the Taliban to kill US soldiers in Afghanistan.
They’re not doing a very good job.
** There were 22 US deaths in Afghanistan total in 2019.
** There have been 9 US deaths in Afghanistan so far this year.
** Compare that to the 496 deaths in 2010 and 412 deaths in 2011 under Obama!
Facts matter.
The Taliban also laughs at these latest reports. In a new report at The Daily Beast the Taliban admits Russia has been paying them for US deaths for several years now back to 2014!
But for some reason it didn’t make any screaming headlines back in 2014 and 2015!
Via at Sami Yousafzai, Adam Rawnsley, Christopher Dickey, and Erin Banco at The Daily Beast:
Taliban veterans like to laugh about the first time, according to their lore, that the Russians dumped a lot of American dollars on them. During the Taliban campaign to take over all of Afghanistan in 1995, they actually had a few fighter planes, and they used one to force a Russian cargo planea huge Ilyushin Il-76TD flying for a company called Airstanto land in Kandahar.
The Taliban held the Russian crew members prisoner for a year until, one day, they supposedly escaped and managed to take the plane with them. How many millions of dollars that took to arrange, the Taliban have never said, but after the long, bloody decade of the 1980s throwing off Soviet occupation, squeezing the Russians for money like that remains a source of amusement.
Mullah Manan Niazi, who was the spokesman for Taliban leader Mullah Omar in those days, brought up the incident when The Daily Beast asked him about reports that the Russians have offeredand perhaps paidbounties to Taliban who kill American soldiers.
The Russians paying U.S. dollarsits not odd for the Taliban, he said, his voice fraught with irony over the encrypted phone call as he recalled the Airstan incident. As for the current situation, The Taliban have been paid by Russian intelligence for attacks on U.S. forcesand on ISIS forcesin Afghanistan from 2014 up to the present.
TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1995; 2014; bounties; bounty; hostages; obama; russia; taliban
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To: SeekAndFind
Didn’t our CIA work with and equip the Mujahideen? I wonder to what extent we brought the death of Russian soldiers when they occupied Afghanistan. I am thus not surprised to hear that the Russians might have helped the Taliban against us.
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posted on
07/02/2020 8:36:28 PM PDT
by
uscga77
(the truth remains)
To: SeekAndFind
Another good reason for us to get out
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posted on
07/02/2020 8:44:27 PM PDT
by
rintintin
(qu)
To: SeekAndFind
I saw another story claiming it was January 2010: Iran paying the Taliban 1000.00 for each dead American soldier.
Under Obama!
To: SeekAndFind
The anointed one should have told Putin to “cut it out.”
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posted on
07/02/2020 8:45:09 PM PDT
by
choctaw man
(Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
To: uscga77
Jaimie Bondo also helped the Mujaheddin in one of his early films and doing a pretty blond at the same time.
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posted on
07/02/2020 8:45:14 PM PDT
by
Don Corleone
(The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
To: uscga77
[Didnt our CIA work with and equip the Mujahideen? I wonder to what extent we brought the death of Russian soldiers when they occupied Afghanistan. I am thus not surprised to hear that the Russians might have helped the Taliban against us.]
And we supplied the mujahidin because the Russians invaded to prevent Afghanistan’s Marxist ruler from turning to the West. Not to mention the Russians also supplied North Vietnam and North Korea to tune of many billions of dollars, wars in which 100,000 Americans were killed. By comparison, only 13,000 Russians died in Afghanistan.
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posted on
07/02/2020 8:46:44 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: Robert A Cook PE
I saw another story claiming it was January 2010: Iran paying the Taliban 1000.00 for each dead American soldier.
Under Obama!
This is peanuts compared to what the Russians supplied the North Koreans and North Vietnamese during conflicts in which 100,000 Americans died. The Russians also flew MiG's against US forces in both conflicts. North Korean T-34 tanks certainly weren't manufactured in North Korea. And in North Vietnam, the provision of hundreds of Russian tanks certainly greased the skids for the invasion of the South:
The northern leadership was taken aback during the summer of 1971, when an announcement was made that U.S. President Richard Nixon would visit the People's Republic of China, on a diplomatic mission before May 1972. The Chinese placated the suspicions of their ally, by reassuring North Vietnam that even more military and economic aid would be forthcoming in 1972. The Soviet Union, perceiving the growing antagonism between the People's Republic and North Vietnam, sought to widen the rift by also agreeing to "additional aid without reimbursement", for North Vietnam's military forces.[15][16]
These agreements led to a flood of equipment and supplies necessary for a modern, conventional army. This included 400 T-34, T-54 and Type 59 (a Chinese version of the T-54) medium and 200 PT-76 light amphibious tanks, hundreds of anti-aircraft missiles, including the shoulder-fired, heat-seeking SA-7 Strela (called the Grail in the West), anti-tank missiles, including the wire-guided AT-3 Sagger and heavy-caliber, long-range artillery. To man the new equipment, 25,000 North Vietnamese troops received specialized training abroad, 80 percent of them in the Soviet Union or Eastern Europe.[16][17] A contingent of high-level Soviet military personnel also arrived in Vietnam and stayed until March 1972 in preparation for the offensive.[18]
China was North Vietnam's secondary supplier, with the Russians being the principal. What did it take for China to become North Vietnam's secondary supplier, the low man on the totem pole relative to Russia? The following:
Military aid given to North Vietnam by China[3]:379
Year |
Guns |
Artillery pieces |
Bullets |
Artillery shells |
Radio transmitters |
Telephones |
Tanks |
Planes |
Automobiles |
1964 |
80,500 |
1,205 |
25,240,000 |
335,000 |
426 |
2,941 |
16 |
18 |
25 |
1965 |
220,767 |
4,439 |
114,010,000 |
1,800,000 |
2,779 |
9,502 |
? |
2 |
114 |
1966 |
141,531 |
3,362 |
178,120,000 |
1,066,000 |
1,568 |
2,235 |
? |
? |
96 |
1967 |
146,600 |
3,984 |
147,000,000 |
1,363,000 |
2,464 |
2,289 |
26 |
70 |
435 |
1968 |
219,899 |
7,087 |
247,920,000 |
2,082,000 |
1,854 |
3,313 |
18 |
? |
454 |
1969 |
139,900 |
3,906 |
119,117,000 |
1,357,000 |
2,210 |
3,453 |
? |
? |
162 |
1970 |
101,800 |
2,212 |
29,010,000 |
397,000 |
950 |
1,600 |
? |
? |
? |
1971 |
143,100 |
7,898 |
57,190,000 |
1,899,000 |
2,464 |
4,424 |
80 |
4 |
4,011 |
1972 |
189,000 |
9,238 |
40,000,000 |
2,210,000 |
4,370 |
5,905 |
220 |
14 |
8,758 |
1973 |
233,500 |
9,912 |
40,000,000 |
2,210,000 |
4,335 |
6,447 |
120 |
36 |
1,210 |
1974 |
164,500 |
6,406 |
30,000,000 |
1,390,000 |
5,148 |
4,663 |
80 |
? |
506 |
1975 |
141,800 |
4,880 |
20,600,000 |
965,000 |
2,240 |
2,150 |
? |
20 |
? |
Total |
1,922,897 |
64,529 |
1,048,207,000 |
17,074,000 |
30,808 |
48,922 |
560 |
164 |
15,771 |
An account of the first GI's to deal with Russian tanks gifted to Vietnam, from the Tet Offensive:
In February of 1968, 12 Soviet-made PT-76 tanks supported by more than three battalions of North Vietnamese Army (NVA) infantry assaulted a United States Special Forces Camp near Khe Sanh. It was the first time that the NVA had used tanks against American or South Vietnamese positions in the war, and the defenders were ill-prepared for the circumstances.
Eight Green Berets and several South Vietnamese and indigenous soldiers were trapped in the base’s command bunker where they were subjected to grenade, tear gas, and high explosive attacks for a day while awaiting rescue.
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posted on
07/02/2020 9:05:11 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: SeekAndFind
Folks, I don’t like to see anyone or any country paying a bounty on our troops - in fact, I hate it with a passion. But you have to ask yourself, “What does war mean?” I will answer that rhetorical question - it means that people die (soldiers and civilians). BOTH sides kill people on the other side, whether they do it themselves, or whether they have a little help from allies - allies who are often allies only because they are getting something in return.
We, ourselves, are responsible for an awful lot of Russian boys going home in caskets from Afghanistan. Why wouldn’t Russia repay the “favor” at some later date? In fact, I remember in the 1980s that a lot of people said that we were justified in helping the Mujahadeen because the Russians had contributed to a lot of our losses in Vietnam. So WE were playing tit-for-tat. Of course, the Russians could have said that we Americans started it by sending an 8,000 man expeditionary force to Siberia to help fight against their revolution in 1918, in addition to 5,000 men sent to the Archangel area. So maybe Vietnam was the Russians playing tit-for-tat.
The reality is that war is a dirty business, and everyone is trying to win by inflicting casualties on the other side, in the greatest numbers and as quickly as possible. We should not be surprised at the Russians offering bounties on our troops (if it actually occurred), nor should we be stupid and take retaliatory actions right now (are we seriously going to mess with the second most powerful nuclear power in the world over a few of our soldiers, no matter how much it saddens and enrages us?”. But we should definitely remember it.
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posted on
07/02/2020 9:17:57 PM PDT
by
Ancesthntr
("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
To: choctaw man
He probably sent a strongly-worded letter saying, “STOP! And if you don’t stop, then I shall say, “STOP!” again.”
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posted on
07/02/2020 9:19:30 PM PDT
by
Ancesthntr
("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
To: Zhang Fei
We also sent over 10,000 troops to Russia during their revolution.
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posted on
07/02/2020 9:20:53 PM PDT
by
Ancesthntr
("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
To: Ancesthntr
[We also sent over 10,000 troops to Russia during their revolution.]
That they should be grateful for. If we had succeeded, they would have been spared 70+ years of Bolshevik tyranny. Heck, Russia might even have the biggest economy in the world.
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posted on
07/02/2020 9:42:11 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: SeekAndFind
Didn’t Obama pay out a bunch of something to get Bergdahl released? I may be misremembering.
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posted on
07/02/2020 9:44:01 PM PDT
by
petitfour
(APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
To: Ancesthntr
Good post, Everyone should expect death and deception in every war. The thing about the bounty is that I find it easier to believe that support was given and no count was actually required. How did they claim the bounty? scalps? The fact is that there was very little I would imagine except appeals for more support and this could be in the form of cash.
So I am not worried about this rising to a campaign issue. The best we could do is get out of the countries that we don’t want these things happening in and the democrats and some never Trumpers seem to want us to stay engaged. Best establish the rules of engagement so that we can kill on sight (or even over the hill). And stop trying to to find fault with the President over this one
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posted on
07/02/2020 9:44:41 PM PDT
by
KC_for_Freedom
(retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
To: SeekAndFind
Mullah Manan Niazi, who was the spokesman for Taliban leader Mullah Omar in those days, brought up the incident when The Daily Beast asked him about reports that the Russians have offeredand perhaps paidbounties to Taliban who kill American soldiers. Color me skeptical. Anybody can claim anything.
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posted on
07/02/2020 9:48:10 PM PDT
by
McGruff
(A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes)
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posted on
07/02/2020 9:55:01 PM PDT
by
Whenifhow
(when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
To: SeekAndFind
So. I remember in Vietnam that a Big Red One shoulder patch gotten from a dead soldier would bring the V.C. a 100 bucks. That didn’t work either. Payback was not nice to see.
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posted on
07/02/2020 10:02:42 PM PDT
by
Parmy
To: SeekAndFind
Saddam was doing this with Palestinians, right General Powell
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posted on
07/02/2020 10:29:25 PM PDT
by
datricker
(the war of 2024 will be fought at 2.4Ghz stock up on aluminium foil now!)
To: uscga77
They were Soviet soldiers, not Russians, and make no mistake, the Soviets are back in 1994 doing the same tricks, is more the case, still fighting an extention of WWII
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posted on
07/02/2020 10:34:45 PM PDT
by
JudgemAll
(Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
To: SeekAndFind
Obama did nothing about it.
But remember, the intel community was divided on whether it was even happening.
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posted on
07/02/2020 10:49:19 PM PDT
by
TBP
(Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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