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To: ek_hornbeck
I think Trump benefited a great deal from the anti-Hillary vote, or at least from the fact that a lot of Democrats didn't bother to show up and vote because Hillary was the candidate

This.

She was uniquely terrible as a candidate - and she still won by 2.9 million votes.

97 posted on 06/28/2020 8:34:52 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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To: Jim Noble
She was uniquely terrible as a candidate - and she still won by 2.9 million votes.

There's a groupthink going on here that says that Hillary getting a higher count in popular vote is all due to illegal immigrants voting and other voter fraud.

While there is some of that, a more likely explanation that some conservatives just won't admit is that outside of our echo chambers, there are tens of millions of Americans who don't think as we do and don't share our values, and they vote (just as liberals refuse to acknowledge that Trump won the electoral college vote legitimately because enough Americans preferred him to Hillary and not because of the "Russian interference" bogey-man).

For every one of us here, there's at least one person in America sympathetic to the BLM protesters - that's how bad it's become.

I'd also add that anyone who is projecting a landslide by either side is delusional. Landslides like Reagan 84 were possible because back then, a lot of Democrats could be convinced to vote Republican if the Democrats ran a weak candidate (or vice-versa). That's simply not true today. We have blocks of states that are guaranteed to go to Trump and another block that's guaranteed to go to Biden. There can't be a "landslide" when you only have about a half dozen states where the vote margin is really up for grabs and is large enough to count.

105 posted on 06/28/2020 8:52:04 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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