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The Danger of Masks
According to Hoyt ^ | May 13, 2020 | Sarah A. Hoyt

Posted on 05/25/2020 11:01:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

Over and over, everywhere, they’re out in force. “I wear a mask because I care.”

The fact this phrase is always used tells me it’s not original. They heard it somewhere, and it sounded good to them and they’re going to use it buckle and tongue whenever anyone challenges the UTILITY — or the sanity — of their wearing a mask.

In fact their wearing a mask is tying a yellow ribbon in their front yard during the Iran hostage crisis. It is flying the flag after 9/11. It’s a way of showing their feelings, their emotions. It’s also a way of feeling part of a crowd. (Yes, I flew the flag after 9/11. But my dears, I fly the flag all the time, up to and including when I get a wild hair.)

They don’t even TRY to argue it does something useful. They just view it as a symbol to tie to their faces, to show they “care.”

The problem is that it isn’t a gesture without a cost.

Flying the flag or tying the ribbon, or wearing the AIDs ribbon also did bloody nothing, except perhaps lend comfort to other people in the same situation. Like your neighbors who wanted the hostages back already and wanted life back to normal. Or your friends who wanted a cure for AIDS. Or other people grossly infuriated by the attack on the twin towers, who wanted to do something when there was nothing they could do.

Yes, I DO understand the need for solidarity and a psychological feeling of doing something, even if it doesn’t mean much in the real world. I’m a writer. I deal in symbols. Of course I understand.

But wait, there’s a problem with the mask as the chosen symbol of “I care.”

I’ll admit if we’d done it INSTEAD of locking down I’d probably have done it (or tried to do it. For me there are costs greater than for most people. More on that later.)

For now let’s talk about the danger of masks.

No, not psychological dangers, though those exist too.

We’re going to talk about the CLOTH masks most people wear, which someone on facebook was insisting “cut your risk by 25%”. I’m fairly sure those numbers are PFA or refer to the N-95 and surgical grade masks.

Because the cloth masks are about as good for stopping a virus as a window screen for stopping smoke.

You can’t, at the same time, say this virus is so tiny it hangs in the air, OUTDOORS for 10 hours, waiting for people to pass by, and that it is so big that it’s stopped by regular fat quarter cotton weave. Or think that those who refuse to wear the mask are trying to kill you, but advice asthmatics like me, or those who have panic attacks with something in front of their mouth and nose that they must wear it “under the nose” or “really loose.”

It’s one or the other or it’s nothing. In this case it’s nothing. The mask is solidarity, a symbol, a badge of “I wear it because I care.”

But you don’t care. Because what you’re doing when you not only wear the fargin magic mask, or tie it to your poor kids’ faces, or act like anyone not wearing one is trying to kill you is going to make people very sick. Or kill them.

So, let’s talk about what those cloth masks do.

On the PLUS side, they keep you from sneezing at people. I don’t know about you but since the swine flu years ago, I have been sneezing into my elbow and facing downwards. This means any extra particulate is going on the ground. Unless you’re licking the ground, you’re probably safe.

But let’s say you’re a rudesby who likes sneezing in people’s faces. Okay then, the mask keeps you from doing that.

But let’s talk about what the mask IS: a cloth medium that holds on moisture and particles you exhale.

Now let’s talk about cold viruses: you’re full of them. No, not just Coronavirus. LOTS of Corona Viruses. Rhino (from nose, not the animal) viruses too. Even when you’re not sick, a certain amount of viruses live in you. They might just be too few to infect anyone, and besides, your immune system keeps them in check.

I had a friend who used to yell at me that my sons getting soaked to the skin in a snow storm was no reason to be scared they’d get sick, because you “get sick from viruses, not getting cold and wet.”

She was right and also woefully wrong. Her understanding of biology is such that though we’ve not spoken in years I’m sure she’s gone full frontal Karen and yells at people in public not wearing masks.

You see, the reason our ancestors, who weren’t dumb as rocks, called colds “colds” is that they were often brought on by a shock to the system. Like getting soaked and cold. The virus was already there, but not in quantities to cause a horrible illness. Until, of course, your defenses went down.

Also for the record, viruses mutate extremely fast and can interchange DNA and create super mutant viruses. This is why animals and people living in close proximity is a big issue and why we have swine flu, chicken pox, etc etc.

So when you tie a piece of nice — kept moist by your breath — fabric in front of your mouth and wear it EVERYWHERE you’re going to give those viruses an ideal place to grow and mutate.

Your caring is so GREAT you’re cultivating new viruses, just there for people to catch from you. Isn’t that nice?

On top of which, because the pieces of fabric don’t fit well and are uncomfortable, everyone I’ve seen fumbles with them constantly,thereby bringing whatever viruses they just picked up on their hands or gloves near their faces …. and adding to the petri dish.

This goes double for little kids, who are AT BEST little petri dishes, anyway, and I say this as someone who loves kid. They’re going to lick the inside of that mask, you know they are. And continue wearing it.

A friend who is a nurse says under no circumstances should you wear a mask — the same mask — longer than half an hour. Another friend who is a biologist says no, leaving the mask in the locked car in the sun is NOT enough to disinfect it. You need to run it through a bleach cycle on hot. (I’m not sure about the bleach, but the hot cycle is a good idea, I think. AND loads of detergent. And a hot dryer.)

And guess what? We’re already seeing pneumonias and strange viral things not Winnie the Flu from the mask mania.

In fact, I predict a very hard season ahead. And these people are doing it to themselves, because they “care” so much.

Look, disengaging your brain is always a bad thing. Disengaging your brain and playing with biology is a horrible thing. But go right ahead and tell us how much you “care.”

Oh, and by the way, there are people who simply can’t wear the mask. So when you go on an unhinged rant about how everyone who goes unmasked wants to spit in your face and kill you, not only are you an ignorant moron (being a moron is not your fault, but you could at least inform yourself, assuming a) that everyone is infected and b) that this virus is lethal in every case — which is so far from the truth it’s not even on the same planet. –) you’re also wanting to kill everyone who has asthma. Mine came out of remission with a vengeance within ten minutes of having a mask on. And, yes, asthma CAN kill you. So can panic attacks. So can about a hundred other respiratory illnesses, chronic and not, that say ANYTHING blocking your airway is a bad idea.

And for the love all that’s holy, don’t jog with a mask on. You’re giving yourself hypoxia and brain damage, and trust me, you need every brain cell you have. They’re lonely as is.

Also don’t drive in a mask. You might not notice and depending on what you made your mask of you might become extremely hypoxic and crash.

If you have to wear a mask for work because your governor is a moron (Hi Jared Polis!) change them every half hour, and wash them in REALLY hot water with plenty of detergent when you get home. If you don’t want to bleach them, color bleach might AT LEAST help some. Dry them in a hot dryer. IRON them. Do your best to sanitize them if you can.

Oh, and before you bleat that Asia wears masks, and look how much better….

You know what else Asia, or at least Japan, did? NEVER SHUT DOWN. And as for masks, friends there inform me that they do INDEED wear them: If they’re sick, and are in a place where they might not be able to cover before they sneeze on strangers two feet away. So, if you ride the NYC subway and are feeling punk? DO WEAR A MASK. If not? You’re not doing what they do in Asia. It’s a courtesy thing, not a “this protects me” thing. Stop taking badly interpreted bits of other cultures and trying to graft them on like magic talismans. It only hurts you. And those around you.

On top of that, btw, since Winnie the flu is asymptomatic in about half the people and MILD in most people under 60 unless there are other conditions present, by wearing the mask, supposing it worked — it doesn’t, but let’s suppose it did — unless you’re one of the at risk, you’d be delaying herd immunity. Which means you’re giving the virus a chance to get to more VULNERABLE people and kill them.

A mask doesn’t show you care. It shows you don’t think. Or if you think, it shows you want to kill asthmatics, those at risk, and want to inflict us with some plague that’s much, much worse than winnie the flu. Your need to belong to the herd will kill people. But don’t let that stop you. Go right ahead. Why not? Evolution finds a way.

Oh,and on belonging to the herd: Masks are apocalyptic cosplay.

One of the earliest needs of humans is to see human FACES. We are in fact programmed to see human faces in everything. Ever stared at a stone wall long enough? the random tracery will become a face.

In public, a smile diffuses tense situations, and strangers often give each other a vague smile meaning “you’re not a threat.”

Instead, we’re going out in public into a faceless landscape, often with angry eyes. It prolongs the sense of fear, heightens the back brain panic, and in general makes everything worse out there. It holds people in terror.

So, go ahead. You want to wear a mask? Wear a mask. But don’t tell me you care. Tell me you want to belong, and are either selfish or a dumb ass.

Because there’s a price for everything. And the price for mask mania is way too high.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: covid19; danger; mask; panda
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To: Chgogal

LOL.

People used to die of infectious disease in huge numbers and average life expectancy was about 40. If people in the Roman empire of Medieval Europe had actually understood HOW DISEASE WORKS they would have worn masks during epidemics.


21 posted on 05/25/2020 12:31:11 PM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: jstolzen

Since a mask primarily protects OTHERS from YOU, and other’s masks protect YOU from THEM...

I’ve yet to hear a coherent explanation of how a piece of fabric magically filters in one direction only.


22 posted on 05/25/2020 12:31:55 PM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: jstolzen

The anti-mask people are using politics over science with everything they say. It is ideology over facts and my way or the highway. This is post modernism in its essence. Here is some of the science:

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsnano.0c03252

https://rs-delve.github.io/reports/2020/05/04/face-masks-for-the-general-public.html


23 posted on 05/25/2020 12:37:16 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: jstolzen

We are the worst off for cases and deaths due to our wanting the numbers to be large. Every death is counted as COVID-19. We test way more than any other country, so of course the numbers are higher.


24 posted on 05/25/2020 12:41:31 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (It's time to get back to work!)
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To: Flick Lives

It’s not an either/or

A mask cuts down the transmission of droplets from you to others pretty drastically; there are some retards on this thread that don’t get that it’s not the virus that masks deal with, it’s the droplets containing them that masks deal with.

All but the best masks don’t do *that* much to protect the wearer, but the do some good, but all do more good to protect other people from the wearer.

That’s why there’s so much condemnation of those who won’t wear masks; they are essentially saying ‘Screw YOU’ to everyone else.


25 posted on 05/25/2020 12:46:37 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: Kozak
"Why is asking people to behave in a reasonable manner to try and slow the rate of a Pandemic so damn political?"

Perhaps the political, anti-mask, rhetoric is designed to keep the pandemic alive as long as possible. That way President Trump gets more blame and his chance for reelection lessened. They know what they are doing and I see through it even when they try to use the ideological mask to hide it.

26 posted on 05/25/2020 12:47:26 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum

Can you cite where ‘we test way more than any other country’, please?
Thanks


27 posted on 05/25/2020 12:48:04 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: Chgogal
"How the hell did did the human race survive centuries without wearing masks?"

Man wouldn't have survived if he had today's worldwide travel by airlines and transportation by buses, cars and trains and no knowledge of microbiology.

28 posted on 05/25/2020 12:54:07 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I have a 94 year-old grandmother. She is very vulnerable and her life is very precious. If our culture hadn’t had the civilizing influence of Christianity, my dear grandmother would have been the ingredients to Soylant Green after her life was expedited with a little red pill.

I have heard of “coronavirus parties” where the participants gather and get infected with a known infected friend. The idea is it might be better to get sick with the virus and get it over with. I wonder how many will, then, try to infect the “old people” to get them out of the way?


29 posted on 05/25/2020 1:09:28 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
"Wear a mask: No. It gives people a false sense of security."

Calling it a false sense of security defies the scientific facts. The benefit of masks has been scientifically studied to the nth degree. The trouble is too many skeptics swallow the non-science perceptions because it easier than reading the scientific justification. In fact, they will say that people who tell them the science can give them chapter and verse and it will still be garbage to them. This is the basis of postmodernist thinking which causes failure wherever it it practiced.

30 posted on 05/25/2020 1:19:27 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I could care lass...

I wear a mask/bandana in Walmart because I don’t wont you breathing your Wu Hu Flu cooties on me...

(Church is still drive in till June)


31 posted on 05/25/2020 2:02:58 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: goodnesswins

“Number of cases is driven by number of TESTS...and deaths are irrelevant without per capita measurement”

Absolutely


32 posted on 05/25/2020 3:08:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Nifster

Thank you for the perspective.

I’m not anti mask, but am not convinced that wearing a mask is without cultural consequences. Am not looking forward to someone in DC or at the UN telling me that I have to wear one or do anything that encroaches on my personal liberties.

I greatly mistrust Central Government motives. In my opinion, with great evidence to be mistrustful. Look at all the crap that the ComDems have aimed at Trump and forced us to put up with.

ComDems all lie. They MUST. If they told the truth, NO ONE would ever elect them. It is that simple.


33 posted on 05/25/2020 3:15:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: FreedomForce

In my opinion, the article is more about motives than technical details.


34 posted on 05/25/2020 3:16:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: glennaro

“... cost we pay when people hide their faces — their very identity — with the masks.”

Within the hour a cop who is looking for the CT murderer said the current mask-wearing situation is a huge problem for them. It’s hindering their efforts finding and identifying him.


35 posted on 05/25/2020 3:23:09 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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To: jonrick46

“I wonder how many will, then, try to infect the “old people” to get them out of the way?”

How many will? Well, 1 for sure, if you count Andrew Cuomo - which I do.


36 posted on 05/25/2020 3:28:03 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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To: RedStateRocker

“there’s so much condemnation of those who won’t wear masks; they are essentially saying ‘Screw YOU’ to everyone else.”

I don’t wear a mask, and the phrase, “screw you” never entered my mind. I do think, “pity you”; seeing normally logically people with irrational fear is very sad


37 posted on 05/25/2020 3:32:27 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
fine.

We have had Zero local cases. 3 adjacent counties don't either.

We had 25 cases at a nearby prison, but they are group quarantined until they are over it.

I am not trying to tell you what to do. I think the article has some good points.

38 posted on 05/25/2020 4:29:32 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: jonrick46

I don’t know. But it sounds like a very stupid idea to me.

But the way some states have “cared” for those in nursing homes and assisted living facilities is criminal. Literally.

Not the fault of the nursing homes, the fault of the state government.


39 posted on 05/25/2020 4:31:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Also valid reasons for not wanting to wear a mask

I know how to evaluate risk. Corona virus or no some people might need to wear a mask when out. I have no problem if it is voluntary. The virtue signallers who never clean their crap masks drive me crazy


40 posted on 05/25/2020 4:36:40 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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