Posted on 05/25/2020 11:01:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
What is Covid19 about? Not about the virus. About control, putting us in our place. /sarcasm, sort of.
Lets not suffer from being tricked into giving up liberty for security.
Author’s premise is slightly wrong, Virus does not grow outside a human host. On a cloth is not where they grow.
It may reside and “build up” it does not grow there.
Bacteria is the problem, because bacteria can cause health problems.
Medicine is not my background, only have extensive related experience due to caring for sick family members for almost 15 years.
What you stated, I'm sure is correct.
The issue with the mask is how effective are the homemade masks, do they trap bacteria and allow it's growth due to constant moisture and bacterial discharge form the human mouth, are they being used as a tool to force us to destroy our economy and livelihood pursuing a false sense of urgency. Are we being manipulated to allow the DC beast to make us all serfs from here on out.
Covid19 is a bad bug, but even the inflated death count (by definition) does not amount to a level above the normal flue.
This is a politically motivated effort, and Trumps advisers have not shown a good track record at predicting results. Are they using this for their own reasons?
The author seems to not realize the MAIN reason for wearing a mask.
An infected person simply exhaling spreads virus particles into the environment. Talking makes spread worse (higher number of particles expelled than simply breathing). And of course sneezing, coughing, etc without doing so into your arm (which many people rudely don’t do) is 100X worse in terms of potential virus spread.
THAT is the primary purpose of masks. Reduce “outbound” virus spread.
It’s true that a cloth mask doesn’t do much to protect the wearer. (Albeit, there are ways to make a cloth mask with non-woven and other filter fabrics that DO protect the wearer far more than “no” mask..some estimates are as high as 80-90%, which is a lot better than zero).
Since a mask primarily protects OTHERS from YOU, and other’s masks protect YOU from THEM, yeah..it basically does say that those who do not take that one basic, simple step are indeed not particularly considerate of others.
Why we’ve turned this into a “freedom” or political, left v. right issue is beyond me. Every country that has widely adopted face coverings and social distancing has pretty much gotten the virus under control. Or at least 1/100th as bad as we have it. But, we’re Americans, dammnit! And NO-ONE is going to tell us what to do!! However, the cost of that approach is that we’re the most worst off country in terms of cases and deaths, with no signs that we’re going to get through it anytime soon..
We can take a serious dent out of the virus and get things opened up safely again - but we have to change our approach and not make EVERYTHING political if we want to do so..and if that means 80-90 or even a higher % of us take the simple step of wearing masks..that’s really no great hardship to beat this thing.
I will wear a mask in a store out of courtesy to the workers. It comes off as soon as I leave the store.
It is interesting thge postings on FB and elsewhere regarding the wearing of masks. People will contort themselves as to reasons why or why not wear a mask.
As for me, myself and I....Common sense tells me that wearing one our our tie dye masks must provide some level of inhaled virus reduction. It won’t be 100%—I know.
I have a few of the checkmarks. I will do what I believe I need to do to stay healthy. If you do not want to wear a mask...I could care less. That is your business. But if you are going to wear a mask, at least try to wear it properly. Wearing it under your nose or on top of your head is not wearing it properly. Might as well not wear the mask then.
Stay safe out there and stay healthy...
“we’re the most worst off country in terms of cases and deaths”
Simply NOT TRUE. Per capita deaths in the US are low relative to many other nation. The deaths we have had are largely in nursing homes/care homes, prisons, large processing plans where workers are in close proximity for long hours and in close quartered transportation systems.
In my opinion, NYC is the worst because of density of population, mass transit, low exposure to the beneficial effects of strong sunshine, and a lot of fakery for money in their statistics.
There is no excusing the lies about the nursing homes from Cuomo. He is trying to dodge the responsiblity. The ComDems have actually plotted to prevent the polls to be open in November. You can say that is conspiracy theory, but no rational person would put Covid patients back in nursing homes.
The Covid Dictators (ComDem governors and mayors) have turned this into a political tool.
I think more of the population realizes the crisis is blown all out of proportion.
I think that it is clear that the major entry point for the virus was through NY. And I suspect that the virus in many other places are mutated and possibly doing less damage.
Rage and Recriminations in the Wake of COVID-19
https://amgreatness.com/2020/05/23/rage-and-recriminations-in-the-wake-of-covid-19/
FR Comment: https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3848079/posts
I was talking about NUMBER of cases and deaths, not per capita.
I'm in very good health for my age. I live in deep flyover country and do not fear the virus. Except I am guarded about the possibility of passing something to my 94 year old father.
Number of cases is driven by number of TESTS...and deaths are irrelevant without per capita measurement
The technical arguments against wearing a mask; that is, masks are, from a practical standpoint, ineffective against receiving or transmitting the virus because of the way nearly everyone selects, applies/fit tests, wears and maintains the damn things without the slightest idea of how to do so properly and effectively.
There is also a significant personal and social cost we pay when people hide their faces -- their very identity -- with the masks. As is the case with a burka on a women, masks are dehumanizing and, along with "social distancing" are the epitome of anti-social behavior. If masks worked to stop the spread of the virus then perhaps -- and only "perhaps" -- the cost to our already severely damaged social fabric might be worth it. But masks are proven ineffective and the costs to society are much too high.
Ah what the hell ... I figure this will resolve itself very soon, as the temperature rises into the 90s and 100s across the country and as people get a taste of their once-taken for granted freedomand as the virus continues to wane, this mask-wearing fad will fade very quickly. Cheers!
How the hell did did the human race survive centuries without wearing masks?
Numbers mean nothing out of perspective.
You are trying to compare tiny nations to the USA. As if they are equal in population.
Figure never lie, but liar figure.
Look carefully at how they are classifying this virus. Everyone who dies and has the virus, cause of death is the virus. In some cases even those with no positive test results are deemed to have died from Covid19.
Cuomo has forbid the use of HCQ and Zinc, except in hospitals. When the sick get to hospitals it has been reported they put them directly on the ventilators. 75% of them die. The media, ComDem Pols and the drug experts downplay the multinational success using HCQ and Zinc. And in their criticism of it’s use, they openly lie about the tests as if it does not work.
First, as to her contention that masks are "dangerous", what she has is a hypothesis, not proof. A lot of Flubros and Flubras have made the same point, also without any real backup.
This study from JAMA gives a solid mechanism of why even a cloth mask should be a highly effective tool in stopping this CCP virus dead in its tracks:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2763852
And this very clever experiment out of Hong Kong shows that it is effective against the CCP Virus, specifically:
In that particular study, if both parties were wearing masks, transmission was reduced by 75% compared to the "no mask" control.
75%. If that can be reproduced by another lab, that's the way out of the CCP virus pandemic.
We don't need "herd immunity". We don' need a vaccine. We certainly don't need the unsustainable shutdown.
Protect the vulnerable, clean surfaces, wash your hands, and wear a mask.
Which was how our great-grandfathers beat the Spanish flu a hundred years ago. So we know it works, we've tried it, with success.
I don’t wear a mask because I haven’t sneezed or coughed in weeks. I give people distance. And since I don’t wear a mask, they give me distance.
A good read
When I retired after spending too much time in a Class 1 clean room I promised myself I would never wear PPE again ever for any reason
If you wear gloves you ought to be constantly changing those as well
Instead wash your hands. If your sick stay home
“Protect the vulnerable, clean surfaces, wash your hands, and wear a mask.”
Terrible advice. Vulnerable people need to protect themselves.
Clean surfaces, wash you hands: obvious and done every year anyway.
Wear a mask: No. It gives people a false sense of security.
The most imbecilic article about masks I’ve seen so far.
The virus particles exhaled are so fine they pass through everything but a specialty filtered mask. The only thing the cloth masks prevent or at least slow down are the droplets from a sneeze or a cough.
They do nothing to “disinfect” breathing.
What absolute bullshit.
If 80% of people wear a mask the transmission of the virus goes way down and we significantly stop the spread. Since a significant number of people infected spread the disease before they become symptomatic.
This is a fact and not even debatable.
Why is asking people to behave in a reasonable manner to try and slow the rate of a Pandemic so damn political?
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