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To: BroJoeK
Now you're sounding more & more like a Democrat.

Next you'll be accusing me of "racism", "sexism" and "basket of deplorables".

Congratulations BroJoeK, you finally managed a post without a nonsensical cheap shot on Germans in regards to your ridiculous "logic of love/hate" trade relations. By this point I didn't believe you could do it. What should people believe here... you or their lying eyes on what you have been constantly posting?

Truth obviously means nothing to you.

All for the purpose of obscuring the fact that (in this case) Germans are racking up a trade surplus of $300 billion per year, ~$60 billion of that from the USA.

And you think that's "fair" because your definition of "fair" is: let's totally abuse our trading partners, right?

Oh now you went all Liberal conspiracy crazy about my motive for pointing out your animosity towards Germans.

Actually I have not defended the Germans on trade. I have posted many times in support of President Trump, that "it's good to periodically toss elbows".

Fact is there needs to be a level playing field with the same rules for everyone. Then you know what? We actually need manufacturing jobs back in America so Germany and everyone else has stuff to buy. But it's easy to mindlessly blame Germans (which you do all day) without having to muster a single clue about what we need to do, you know like.... actually build stuff that people want to buy. It's just plain foolish to demand Germany simply must buy more goods from us.

I pinged you on a hunch that it might generate a response.
Turns out I was right.
I didn't think much of this thread about "young Germans" nor the source. I was pinged to it simply because I have "Berlin" in my name. Some people get their button pushed simply about "Berlin" and then want answers. Usually while they supposition on what I think (looking at you BroJoeK).
101 posted on 05/23/2020 4:24:13 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper; Rockingham
Berlin_Freeper: "Congratulations BroJoeK, you finally managed a post without a nonsensical cheap shot on Germans in regards to your ridiculous "logic of love/hate" trade relations."

I see from the rest of your post that you've admitted my position is right: fair trade is better than abusive trade.
But, naturally, you can't just say, "you're right, BroJoeK," instead you have to fill your back-down with a barrage of insults & nonsense, similar to your other posts.

Berlin_Freeper: "Truth obviously means nothing to you. "
...Oh now you went all Liberal conspiracy crazy about my motive for pointing out your animosity towards Germans."

Total nonsense.
My alleged "animosity" is a pure figment of your imagination, typical perhaps of someone who thinks: if you don't worship me, you hate me.
That is mental illness, FRiend.

I have pointed out, and you have agreed, that unfair trade relationships can be abusive, and that the world's greatest practitioners of "beggar thy neighbor" trade practices are Germany and China.

Berlin_Freeper: "But it's easy to mindlessly blame Germans (which you do all day) without having to muster a single clue about what we need to do, you know like.... actually build stuff that people want to buy.
It's just plain foolish to demand Germany simply must buy more goods from us."

Rockingham pointed out here that traditional trade numbers don't always give the most accurate picture of what's really going on.
I agree and so think President Trump's bottom line is not the trade surpluses themselves, but rather the resulting US unemployment rates, which, pre-Covid-19 were the best ever, all without major upsets to traditional trading patterns.

In other words: so long as the US economy is humming along nicely, we are not over-concerned about huge German trade surpluses.

As for US exports, Germany is already our number 6 export receiver, but they are number 5 in US imports and that difference is ~$60 billion, fourth behind China, Mexico & Japan.

Berlin_Freeper: "I didn't think much of this thread about "young Germans" nor the source.
I was pinged to it simply because I have "Berlin" in my name.
Some people get their button pushed simply about "Berlin" and then want answers.
Usually while they supposition on what I think (looking at you BroJoeK)."

Naw, you're just over-fantasizing.
I saw your name on a previous ping and thought, "hmmmm… wonder what Berlin_Freeper has to say about this?"
Turns out, a lot of nonsense about "animosity" towards Germans, but basic agreement on the need to review why, exactly, those trade surpluses are so big.

As for the original article about German youth favoring China over the USA, does anyone really care what skulls full of mush think?

104 posted on 05/24/2020 4:10:59 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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