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Gun Safes: The Stark Truth
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 5/21/20 | T Kubiniec

Posted on 05/21/2020 9:21:04 AM PDT by w1n1

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1 posted on 05/21/2020 9:21:04 AM PDT by w1n1
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To: w1n1

Buy an American made Liberty Safe or Safes and be done with it.


2 posted on 05/21/2020 9:22:10 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: w1n1

I have 6 pistols id like to store in a safe. Any suggestions? I don’t need a big 6 footer or anything


3 posted on 05/21/2020 9:31:49 AM PDT by albie
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The Author of this articles sells very expensive, light weight gun “cabinets” and is trying to convince you that they are more secure than a traiditional gun safe.

Truth is any safe will only stop “smash and grab” or semi-pro thieves.

A professional thief or a 4 member gang banger team is going to get into anything.

That’s why having a hiding place that they can’t find is better than any safe.


4 posted on 05/21/2020 9:33:32 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: albie

Years ago I went to Home Depot and bought a safe for $100. It fits my pistols. It’s not specifically set up for guns, but if cost is a concern then you might want to try Home Depot or Lowe’s. It has a dial combination so it’s not quick-access.


5 posted on 05/21/2020 9:34:57 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: desertfreedom765

I think concealing the safe is of most concern....but since a good safe should be bolted into a cement floor, that means its the garage or the basement doesn’t it?....and wouldn’t robbers go right to those areas?..


6 posted on 05/21/2020 9:44:42 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

If your house is burning down and bullets explode guess what the fire department will not do?


7 posted on 05/21/2020 9:48:08 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: w1n1

Buy a really good fire proof smaller safe and put all of your ammunition in it. Save yourself some bucks because it sounds like your guns are going to burn up anyway. At least you’re keeping them from being loaded.


8 posted on 05/21/2020 9:58:15 AM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: w1n1

The author implies that a safe made of 8 or 10 gauge steel has nearly no value because they are so easy to get into.

He should come to my place and try to get past my motion sensor and Mossberg 590.

These products were never designed to prevent theft.

They were designed to slow it down so that additional measures of prevention could be applied.


9 posted on 05/21/2020 9:58:18 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: desertfreedom765

Xactly. You just want to take care primarily to keep friends and family, workers at bay. Then smash and grabbers. With a major fire or determined professional effort all bets are off. Buy American made at least.


10 posted on 05/21/2020 9:58:44 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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"Buy an American made Liberty Safe or Safes and be done with it."

Liberty safes are RSC's the same as most other brands. They are not UL rated burglary safes.

The problem here is not just consumer knowledge. The problem is real safes are VERY expensive and VERY heavy compared to RSC's. Most people simply can't afford or do not want to spend the money to purchase a true safe. Real safes large enough to hold long guns start in the 3k plus range with most closer to 5k or more. Then installing a 2500 lb or more safe is very expensive and difficult. For most people RSC's are the only practical option and nearly all the popular names offer only RSC's, even though the quality varies greatly.

11 posted on 05/21/2020 10:06:34 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: DIRTYSECRET

As a best practice, dont store the majority of your ammo in your gun safe.

As a former firefighter, i could handle ammo cooking off ‘open air’ but ammo in a safe might case the safe to ‘explode’ when the ammo inside reaches ignition temp.

My 2 cents.


12 posted on 05/21/2020 10:07:39 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: desertfreedom765

True. Safes keep out the curious and the uninvited.

They dont keep out the determined person forever.


13 posted on 05/21/2020 10:08:56 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: w1n1

bkmk


14 posted on 05/21/2020 10:09:14 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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The Russian mob ain’t going to be breaking into my house carrying grinders and portable plasma cutters. If it happens it will be a small gang of juvenile delinquents or worse case a couple of meth heads. They will not spend more than about 5 minutes grabbing easy stuff. I doubt very seriously they are going to try to get into even a moderately substantial safe.


15 posted on 05/21/2020 10:18:04 AM PDT by suthener
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To: samadams2000

Did you read the part where it included Liberty Safes in the same category?

I have a Liberty. Not really concerned about it surviving a huge fire, so I don’t care.


16 posted on 05/21/2020 10:35:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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“Buy an American made Liberty Safe or Safes and be done with it.”

that’s what i did decades ago ... only way to open it for ordinary thieves without combo is with a cutting torch ... it’s highly fire-resistant as well ... discourage torch thieves with a sticker on the side that says “Danger: Contains Explosives” ...


17 posted on 05/21/2020 10:35:49 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Mariner

When I was looking for a safe, the local police chief told me his biggest concern was making sure kids couldn’t get into them. If thieves really want something they will get it, he said. But a distraught teenager will grab a gun and kill themselves. Preventing that was his biggest concern as he went to two or three of those a year.

Obviously if you have a specialty collection...you have to plan accordingly.


18 posted on 05/21/2020 10:39:32 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: suthener

I have a 30 year old Treadlok that would take a torch or nitro glycerin to get into. However, when working for Fed gov’t we had a heavy duty safe designed for holding top secret plus materials. We had lost or never had the combo. Manufacturer sent an expert who had it open from scratch in a couple of minutes. Didn’t have the combo from factory either. Contents were two 2 1/2” Model 66’s “misplaced” by US Marshals Service.


19 posted on 05/21/2020 10:47:08 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Blueflag

House Alarms and Cameras are cheap and can add a layered defense.

Also when you travel make sure no one knows your business who does’t need to know. Including the newspapers and mail people.

That’s about the best you can do.


20 posted on 05/21/2020 10:55:01 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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