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Is the Coronavirus Unprecedented? In lethality, No. What is unprecedented about the Wuhan virus is the reaction to it by world governments
Powerline Blog ^ | 05/07/2020 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 05/07/2020 8:07:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 05/07/2020 8:07:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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and the reaction by the media

and by the reaction of otherwise more level-headed people buying into the hysteria fear


2 posted on 05/07/2020 8:10:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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I believe that there is still a tremendous amount we still don’t know about this virus.
I also think that what we don’t know scares the bejeebers out of virologists.


3 posted on 05/07/2020 8:14:50 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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If we had the Hong Kong Flu today, we would probably see at least 250,000 deaths because our population, especially 65+ is much greater today than back then.


4 posted on 05/07/2020 8:15:10 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Just for comparison, while the HK flu was raging, the Woodstock festival occurred. I was in my senior year in high school. No shut downs. Frankly, I don’t even remember it being an issue then.


5 posted on 05/07/2020 8:21:35 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well, it’s an election year and Orange Man Bad.


6 posted on 05/07/2020 8:24:04 PM PDT by Salamander (Flying Colours....)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Asian flu was sweeping the world as the first satellites were flying into space. A rock and roller on the Gulf Coast took note.

Satellite Fever and the Asiatic Flu--Paul Perryman (1958)

7 posted on 05/07/2020 8:24:55 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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My mom had it bad.

I was 7.

My dad took care of her and all she did was stay in bed for a couple weeks.

The end.


8 posted on 05/07/2020 8:25:31 PM PDT by Salamander (Flying Colours....)
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I’m pretty sure the Hong Kong flu had long since run its course by the time Woodstock took place. It was a big issue in late ‘68—early ‘69, but by the late spring, it was old news.

In late 1968, the Hong Kong flu swept through the Minnesota Vikings, which may have contributed to their 33-3 loss to the Los Angeles Rams. However, they apparently gave the bug to the Rams, who lost to Chicago the next week.


9 posted on 05/07/2020 8:31:05 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Plandemic.
Shamdemic.
Fauxdemic.

Why does no one point out that last calendar year we had 60-80K people that died from ‘The Flu’ and a flu THAT ALREADY HAS A VACCINE?!?!?

Am I the last sane person on this planet? I know I’m not the smartest, but Geeze Louise!

What a flippin’ scam.

And the people that gained from this and led the world astray need to be shot. At dawn. No smokes, no blindfolds!


10 posted on 05/07/2020 8:33:11 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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Not really an unprecedented reaction at all. In response to the Spanish Flu outbreak all the way back in 1918, the city of St. Louis closed all schools, movie theaters, and pool halls It also banned all public gatherings.

San Francisco mandated wearing masks in public closed schools, banned social gatherings, and closed all places of “public amusement.”

In Cleveland, theaters, movie houses, dance halls, schools, night schools, churches, and Sunday Schools were ordered to close. Outdoor gatherings required approval from the city and other businesses could only operate with restricted hours.

St. Paul Minnesota enacted a closing order for the whole city, including schools, theaters, churches, and dance halls.

Most major cities in the US had similar orders in effect. So this idea that all this suddenly came out of nowhere without any precedence is pure fantasy. The reality is that we’ve done this before when faced with a scary pandemic and our country didn’t come to an end then. We didn’t dissolve into a fascist dictatorship, we didn’t lose our democracy, we didn’t destroy our economy, and we didn’t all turn into socialists.

The initial projections said as many as 2.2 million Americans would die if no action was taken to slow this. With the massive lockdowns coast to coast, we’re still going to lose upwards of 130,000 American lives. I don’t think it’s crazy to think that number would have been much higher if the entire country looked like New York City where they’re loading bodies into refrigerated trucks with forklifts because the hospitals are overwhelmed and the morgues are overflowing. In purely economic terms, the US Federal government values each American life at $10 Million. With 2.2 million Americans dead, that would equate to $22 Trillion in losses according to the numbers they use.


11 posted on 05/07/2020 8:39:50 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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Last flu season (2018-2019) saw 34,000 flu deaths. You’re thinking of 2017-2018, which saw 61,000 deaths (not “80k”). That flu season was the worst in decades in terms of deaths. The average in the US is about 35,000 flu deaths in a whole year. We’re 3 months in with COVID-19 and we’ve already had 73,000 deaths. Not for a year (like how flu deaths are tracked), but for about 3 months of significant infection in the US.

Recent projections from multiple sources show that even with the enormous lockdown measures across the country and social distancing (none of which we do with the flu), we’re still going to hit around 135,000 dead Americans, and that’s WITHOUT this coming back worse in the fall like Spanish Flu did in 1918.

We let the flu spread uncontrolled and it kills 35,000 on average in an entire year. With lots of effort from everyone trying to slow it down as much as possible, COVID-19 has killed more than 73,000 Americans in 3 months.


12 posted on 05/07/2020 8:56:13 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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The Vikings have always been looking for an excuse.


13 posted on 05/07/2020 8:59:34 PM PDT by wjcsux (Inside every DemocRAT politician is a fascist dictator screaming to be let loose.)
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People aren’t trusting those numbers...esp. when those in Hospice or with other comorbidities are counted as Covid. Wonder what this year’s flu deaths look like number wise?


14 posted on 05/07/2020 9:44:31 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Anyone tired of the Chinese Fire Drill (tm) yet???)
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To be completely transparent the 2017-2018 bad flu season does have a margin of error from 46,404 fatalities up to 94,987 fatalities (61K in the middle).

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm

Still bit early to make “it is just the flu” or “it’s bad, very bad” generalities...the numbers can be made to look just about any way you want...for CA only COVOD-19 is less serious than regular flu so far, for the US as a whole excluding N.Y. & N.J. (subway & Cuomo hell w/o a vaccine) then COVID is about as bad as regular flu...if you include N.Y. & N.J. then it is about 2x as bad as regular flu.


15 posted on 05/07/2020 9:56:25 PM PDT by Drago
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Bkmk


16 posted on 05/07/2020 10:24:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Tell the truth about goodness, tell the truth about evil, and don't side with the Enemy.)
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Precisely


17 posted on 05/07/2020 11:01:47 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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I tagged it as a ‘panic pandemic’ pretty much from day 1.

Certainly I didn’t comprehend all the subterfuge behind it all, though.

Deny
Delay
Distract
Distract
Distract

“Orange Man Bad”


18 posted on 05/08/2020 2:19:51 AM PDT by Oscar in Batangas ( (January 20, 2017, High Noon. The end of an error.))
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Thanks.


19 posted on 05/08/2020 6:15:55 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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P.S. Nice Try, Newbie. I see you signed up YESTERDAY to spread more fear.

*Rolleyes*


20 posted on 05/08/2020 6:19:38 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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