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ARE VAST MAJORITY OF COVID-19 CASES ASYMPTOMATIC?
Powerline Blog ^ | 04/30/2020 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 04/30/2020 12:18:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

From studies in prisons in four states comes a remarkable conclusion: as many as 95% of COVID-19 cases may produce no symptoms:

As mass coronavirus testing expands in prisons, large numbers of inmates are showing no symptoms. In four state prison systems — Arkansas, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia — 96% of 3,277 inmates who tested positive for the coronavirus were asymptomatic, according to interviews with officials and records reviewed by Reuters.
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After a recent spike in cases at the Neuse Correctional Institution in Goldsboro, North Carolina, state correctional officials tested all 723 prisoners last week. Of the 444 who were infected by the virus, 98% were asymptomatic, the state’s department of public safety said. …

Similarly, mass testing at two Arkansas prisons — the Cummins Unit in the city of Grady and the Community Correction Center in the state capital Little Rock — found 751 infected inmates, almost all of them asymptomatic, the state corrections department said.

The implication, of course, is that vastly more Americans have had the virus than has been believed. That would be great news, because it means that 1) the disease is far less lethal than was once feared, almost certainly in the range of a seasonal flu virus, and 2) we are farther down the road to herd immunity than has been believed.

For reasons I can’t explain, those commenting on the Reuters story don’t see the fact that the virus produces no illness in the overwhelming majority of people it infects as good news:

“Prison agencies are almost certainly vastly undercounting the number of COVID cases among incarcerated persons,” said Michele Deitch, a corrections specialist and senior lecturer at the University of Texas. “Just as the experts are telling us in our free-world communities, the only way to get ahead of this outbreak is through mass testing.”

But how will mass testing “get ahead of this outbreak?” The more tests we do, the more people we will find who have, or have had, the virus. So what? Epidemiologists say that the virus will continue to spread until a critical mass of us have had it and are immune, a number that probably lies between 40% and 70%. The virus will then more or less die out. I fail to understand how doing millions of tests on apparently well people is going to guide policy in any significant way.



TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: asymptomatic; bearshitsinwoods; covid19; popeiscommunist; sharkspissinocean
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To: absalom01
I speak from my own experience doing immunological assays. There can be considerable cross-reactivity between antibodies. I have not seen any data that this test is specific to Covid-19, and not to coronaviruses in general.

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This is an immunoassay I performed. In this one, I was trying to detect specific proteins using antibodies. The arrows denote the specific proteins; the other lines in each column are unidentified proteins that the antibodies also detected. Most immunoassays I have performed show similar cross-reactivity. In the type of antibody test being used, everything is condensed into a single dot, no proteins are separated.

I also question the antibody testing because they are finding too many cases. In order for there to be that many cases, the virus would have to be the most contagious one known. However, it's a cold virus and spreads the same way, so its communicability should be similar to that of other cold viruses.

21 posted on 04/30/2020 4:05:33 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ve had over a million confirmed COVID-19 cases in USA. So how many people are untested but got infected?


22 posted on 04/30/2020 4:43:57 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Falconspeed
it can be argues that by locking down we've caused more death then if just let things ride out...

the nursing homes have been on lockdown with no visitors for several weeks and staff is tested each day upon arrival to work and wearing PPE....

and yet, nursing homes and the like are where people are dying....

we didn't stop anything....

its time fearpers and pandemics admit it....

nursing home victims would have been better off if they could have had visits from their families...

23 posted on 04/30/2020 4:49:38 PM PDT by cherry
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To: exDemMom

Outstanding information, thank you!


24 posted on 04/30/2020 6:57:49 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Falconspeed
Masks are unhealthy and prevent fresh air.

Wore one for the first time yesterday, all it did was make my glasses fog up.

25 posted on 04/30/2020 7:14:48 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Lautenberg The Forefather of "The Nanny State!")
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To: absalom01

You’re welcome!


26 posted on 05/01/2020 5:07:41 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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