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Australia: Gun Shops Closed Because of Increase in Demand
AmmoLand ^ | 9 April, 2020 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/11/2020 5:16:21 AM PDT by marktwain

Prominent Australian gunshop in Brisbane, Queensland image courtesy Dean Weingarten

In Australia, the various governments are using the coronavirus emergency to stop sales of firearms. One of the stated purposes of those who plotted to disarm Australians was to reduce the number of Australians who had guns. That was unsuccessful. More people have guns in Australia today than before the extreme gun laws were put in place in 1997.  The thinking that one purpose of gun laws is to reduce the number of people with guns continues.

During the current emergency, on 31 March, the Daily Mail quoted the national police minister. From dailymail.co.uk:

Police Minister Lisa Neville said at a press conference on Tuesday the number of people attempting to access firearms and ammunition had doubled.

The minister and the National Cabinet decided to pause the sales of firearms and ammunition for sporting or recreational purposes.

They fear an increased amount of weapons on the street would be dangerous as tensions rise and firearms may be stockpiled or accessed by criminals.

There is no suggestion the people who desired firearms were not obeying the law and following the intensely bureaucratic and slow process by which a person is grudgingly allowed to own a firearm in Australia, under tightly controlled conditions.  The government simply did not like the idea that more people were acquiring firearms.

The several different Australian states each approached the situation of the coronavirus a bit differently. In Queensland, gunshops and gunsmiths were labeled “non-essential”.  From health.qld.gov.au:

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The Australian urban elite rejected the concept of a right to arms, and have turned it into a privilege.
1 posted on 04/11/2020 5:16:21 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Anti’s never waste a crisis


2 posted on 04/11/2020 5:34:57 AM PDT by riverrunner ( o the public,)
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To: marktwain

Mr. Inbetween is not amused.


3 posted on 04/11/2020 5:45:23 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: marktwain

“Australia: Gun Shops Closed Because of Increase in Demand”

Both of them?

No big deal, Australians can’t do much with them anyhow except be sure they are locked up and kept at least one kilometer away from the ammunition.


4 posted on 04/11/2020 5:47:48 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: marktwain

The clear lesson in the story, both in Australia and the US is that he time to buy arms is when you don’t think you are going to need to use them.

I am always amused by the outrage over “one gun per month” policies. Sure, I don’t like them, but if I just collect guns at the rate of one per month, in 10 years I would have 120.

If the government thinks I don’t need something, or makes it hard to get, that is a sure-fire sign that I do need it. The wise man stores thing up in times of plenty so he can have them when famine strikes.


5 posted on 04/11/2020 6:16:14 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: marktwain

No rights written into basic law? No rights.


6 posted on 04/11/2020 6:22:35 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: marktwain

Betcha they wish they had back all the guns they turned in and were destroyed, back in 1996-1997.


7 posted on 04/11/2020 6:36:08 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (T)
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To: Midwesterner53
In English law, the rights of Englishmen existed in common law as a matter of tradition.

To eliminate the Englishman's right to arms, the elite simply stopped talking about it, and the courts refused to acknowledge it after WWI.

The Australian Constitution was written in 1900 and ratified on 1 January, 1901.

Australia is a strongly federal system. The individual states have stronger powers, in many ways, than American states.

When the Australian Constitution was written, a bill of rights was not included. Instead, the Australians relied on the traditions of the rights of Englishmen.

Consequently, individual rights to arms, to freedom of speech, to requiring warrants for search and seizure, all depend on the traditions of the courts and precedent.

Some protections are strong, some not so much.

The right to arms is almost completely gone,it lingers only in that the courts have ruled the police must follow procedures when granting firearms permits. Thus the police are not able to simply deny a permit. They are, however, granted wide latitude. If you do not have all your i's dotted and t's crossed, you very likely will not get a permit.

The requirements to prove you have a legitimate "need" for a firearm are significant, but they can be met.

Self defense is not considered a "need" to own a gun in Australia, since 1997.

Warrants to search homes seem more rigorously required than in the United States.

8 posted on 04/11/2020 6:39:28 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Coming to a state near you!


9 posted on 04/11/2020 6:44:01 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: marktwain

Coming to a state near you!


10 posted on 04/11/2020 6:44:04 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Bonemaker
Australia is a very peaceful country.

There is a much lower level of violence than in the United States, especially in the cities. (at least in official statistics for murder)

11 posted on 04/11/2020 7:20:54 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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That would be true even with no gun laws at all.


12 posted on 04/11/2020 9:13:35 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bonemaker

Yes, and the gun laws have not made any real difference in Australian murder rates.


13 posted on 04/11/2020 10:16:07 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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