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1 posted on 04/10/2020 12:42:28 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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Orange man bad!


2 posted on 04/10/2020 12:44:43 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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The same people who say we have to shut down the country based on nothing but guesses and “models” ...

So, the 18,255 people who have died in the USA from the virus had nothing to do with it?


3 posted on 04/10/2020 12:45:05 PM PDT by Pravious
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Interesting indeed!


4 posted on 04/10/2020 12:45:15 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The Revolution Will Not Be Televised but It Will Be Livestreamed)
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“Dr. Fauci, has there ever been a double-blind study to prove that the so-called ‘COVID-19 virus’ is, in fact, responsible for any symptoms or deaths? If not, then isn’t this entire snow job by you on this country completely unscientifically based, just as you’ve said HCQ is?”


5 posted on 04/10/2020 12:47:45 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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“...but we cannot prescribe a drug which could improve his reelection chances until three years from now when all the studies are completed, peer-reviewed, and published?”

I believe that’s part of it, but also believe this entire situation is a “Red Flag” event. It was planned by the Deep State and their global partners like George Soros, Bill Gates, et al, to allow them the means to fully implement their agenda. Crash the economy, close the schools and keep everybody locked up until they can get their machinery in place and when ready they will release us from our cages into a new world with a new economy and new set of rules. They will have created their socialist paradise with total control without firing a single bullet.

It’s just the flu, dammit!


7 posted on 04/10/2020 12:53:17 PM PDT by Liberal Anti Venom (In a free society, the last refuge of a moron is tyranny. ~Jeremy Egerer~)
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If Trump doe not get the economy going pretty quick he will not be reelected. Obama would never have shut down the country. He would have let 100,000 people die. That is his track record.
Children need to be in school.
Seniors need to be protected.
Everyone else needs to get back to work.


9 posted on 04/10/2020 12:56:41 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (A deep and terrible ignorance born of abject corruption is required to hate our president.)
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"The same people who say we have to shut down the country based on nothing but guesses and "models" are the exact same people saying we must not prescribe hydroxychloroquine until we have full 10,000 participant double-blind trials and conclusive scientific proof.

Has the FDA approved cannabis yet for the treatment of anything?
10 posted on 04/10/2020 1:01:50 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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Anyone that doesn’t see that politics is driving this whole thing is a moron.

This is just the latest attempt to complete the Obama coup.


13 posted on 04/10/2020 1:15:20 PM PDT by Bullish (Covfefe Happens)
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The anti-malaria Hydroxychloroquine drug under the name, Plaquenli has been used for years with a perscription from a Doctor. The F&D approved it years ago.(Drs. Fauci, Birx should not just stand by) as Trump spouts hyperbole, misinformation actually the President is merely passing on the bad information from Fauci and Birx....not exactly Fake News, but views from the Dr.s lofty insular lairs. "...the FDA issued an emergency order earlier this week approving the drug for use against COVID 19."....The good Dr.s Fauci and Brix, are refusing to recommend this drug, Hydroxychloroquine both as a preventative or a curative.

President Trump's messages are always optimistic....the very antitheses of his critics who want America to fail in order to blame President Trump.

15 posted on 04/10/2020 1:25:42 PM PDT by yoe (Want to HELP the Slave Trade and Drug Cartels in USA? Vote for a democrat........)
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I am a modeler. The models are absolutely correct. They are not handwaving. They are not guessing. They are not wild speculation. They are not democrat propaganda. They are math facts, with uncertainties. But the fact that they posess uncertainties does not disqualify them. It qualifies them.

It is a math fact that if you did not have the lockdown somewhere near 2 million people would die. The error in that is not plus or minus 2 million. It is plus or minus a few hundred thousand.

The fact that the projection dropped from 100 to 200 thousand down to 60,000 is not a flaw int he modeling process. It reflects instead the fact that mitigation is being done, its working, and as that new data hits the model, the model rightly projects downward.

This is one modeler who advocates the following: the only way out of this is to give a prophylactic dose of hydroxychloroquine to every person who does not have measured immunity. Right now you only have a single-digit percentage of USA which has immunity. If you “just reopen” the economy, infections will skyrocket. But this time, you will not be starting from 1 person in 1 location. You will be starting with tens of thousands at every location. If you “just reopen” the economy, you will have slightly less than 2 million people dead, and about 20 million severely sick.

I am not a democrat. This is not democrat propaganda. It’s math. It is not ambiguous. It is not majorly in doubt. It is not a personal private speculation by a crazed handwaving academic. It math-fact.

The facts of this epidemic cannot be discerned by having the purest political convictions. They can only be understood via math.

If Trump reopens the economy, 2 million people dead.
If instead antibody people go back to work, and everyone else gets prophylactic HCQ, the pandemic can be defeated.


17 posted on 04/10/2020 1:35:56 PM PDT by FarRockaway2
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People who want to take the drug should just tell their TDS Governor Wackjob that “it’s my body, it’s my choice”.


19 posted on 04/10/2020 1:42:29 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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"What other reason could there be for this except the obvious, ghoulishly partisan one?">


20 posted on 04/10/2020 1:42:43 PM PDT by yoe (Want to HELP the Slave Trade and Drug Cartels in USA? Vote for a democrat........)
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Double-blind trials are normally conducted to determine if the proposed medication works and that there is no placebo effect. But in this case, who the hell cares if there is a placebo effect as long as it works! There is already plenty of evidence in the available statistics to know that it works amazingly well.


25 posted on 04/10/2020 2:34:49 PM PDT by pelican001
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Yes, totally apart from politics, Americans think illogically. We will play Russian Roulette (forgive if that is racist) with one risky behavior but not with another risky behavior.

We will spend money both in government, in business, in the family, on totally useless non-political virtue signalling and then not have enough money for what is truly useful.


27 posted on 04/10/2020 3:41:48 PM PDT by spintreebob
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Generalize much.

Just another rambling blog post.


34 posted on 04/11/2020 10:22:18 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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