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Could CDC Data Prove COVID-19 Infections in November 2019?
UncoverDC ^ | April 5, 2020 | Tracy Beanz

Posted on 04/07/2020 3:28:01 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

1) Data shows a dramatic spike in “Influenza Like Illness” in certain states as early as November of 2019; 2) A number of states appear to have already experienced an ILI and made it through to a more stable ILI footing for this time of year; 3) The US Military participated in the 2019 Military World Games in Wuhan, China between October 18 and October 27 of 2019. Their chartered flights arrive and depart from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport; 4) Washington is one of the earliest states to show a spike in ILI, corresponding with the incubation period should the virus have been introduced as the military traveled through Washington to other destinations.

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: ismellbs; texas
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To: AndyJackson
 
 
It's what I said - DATA. Now. And I know POTUS is on the same page, but he has the political minefield to deal with that I don't. In his case he HAS to have hard reliable data to back up what he needs to do or he'll be trapped & reamed, and he knows it. So it's a hurry up & wait scene in his case.
 
 

41 posted on 04/07/2020 5:16:23 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: CheshireTheCat

I caught something like this in Haiti in the first week in January, on a mission trip there. Came and went through JFK. Fever, laryngitis, sore throat, cough. Tested negative for flu when I got home, persistent dry cough and tightness in upper respiratory ever since.

Unless or until I can get an antibody test here in NM, I won’t really know.


42 posted on 04/07/2020 5:22:57 PM PDT by moonhawk (I need a new tagline.)
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To: AndyJackson

You assume that the virus acts the same in all infected. The “healthy” are the first wave - they are the ones traveling, etc. Their families and friends - often also young and healthy - are the second wave. The third wave infects the old and infirm.

You point to a correlation, but not a causation. Convince me,. if you can, you are correct.


43 posted on 04/07/2020 5:27:17 PM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: CheshireTheCat

CDC...yeah there’s an agency we can trust. FBI, NSC, CIA, IRS....tear them into 23,000,000,000,000 pieces. Government GANGSTERS.


44 posted on 04/07/2020 5:29:56 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Wuli

Me too.


45 posted on 04/07/2020 5:33:32 PM PDT by umgud
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To: CheshireTheCat
From the article: Well, DUH!
46 posted on 04/07/2020 5:34:01 PM PDT by upchuck (Democrats are always the problem, never the answer.)
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To: MortMan
The “healthy” are the first wave - they are the ones traveling, etc,

First that is an assumption. Second it's not who is the first affected, but who is it spread to, who is next in the chain. With a high R0 you cannot escape the rapid exponentiation.

Second, you assumption requires that one ignore normal statistical distributions. There is a thing called the central limit theorem in statistics. When something is normally distributed, you will get very close to an exact representation of the real statistics with a small sample.

That is what political polling relies upon, but the problem is that pollsters deliberately skew their sample to get the answer that they want.

Your explanation, statistically, at this point has about a 1 in 1billion probability of being correct.

47 posted on 04/07/2020 5:34:26 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If you had a new bio-weapon and wanted to try it out, the Wuhan games would be an ideal starting place. Competitors from all over the world compete and take the bio-weapon back home with them. Perfect!


49 posted on 04/07/2020 5:40:20 PM PDT by upchuck (Democrats are always the problem, never the answer.)
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To: ping jockey

No piles of bodies before the last few weeks when the WuHuFlu took off.


50 posted on 04/07/2020 5:50:58 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: CheshireTheCat

Gimmie the test! Antibodies!
Washington here and had cruddy lungs from 2nd week Jan to about the end of 1st week in Feb. then the early allergy season started for me. Mold and pollen to this day.
I don’t usually get lower respiratory so January was really odd. It was also pretty mild for me.
I dunno. I so much want to protect those elections in November!
I know the deep stater and the dems and the media will pull such crap.
Just watch it!
Vote by mail should be challenged all the way to the SCOTUS.


51 posted on 04/07/2020 6:06:22 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

I don’t believe anything that comes out of the CDC, WHO, DNC or China.


52 posted on 04/07/2020 6:09:00 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: ETCM

Not true. It has been shown that between 20% (Wuhan)-50% (cruise ships) of all infected people are asymptomatic.


53 posted on 04/07/2020 6:15:32 PM PDT by redangus
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To: CheshireTheCat

Supposedly, Italy was seeing cases of a strange pneumonia in November, and possibly even October of 2019. There’s no secret that many Wuhanese travel to and from Italy, as they have a large Chinese population.

The whole thing is just so unbelievable; you’d think that we were living in some strange fiction of the Cold War era.


54 posted on 04/07/2020 6:31:45 PM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: rainee

Yep - 2nd week of January for me. Worst cough ever - wondered if I should go to hospital, never happened before.

...waiting for the antibody test.


55 posted on 04/07/2020 6:38:02 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: lapsus calami
What did those *****s know and when did they know it.

My assessment is that they knew about the laboratory breach in late September or early October, and spent October and November with inter-departmental bickering, finger-pointing, and wishful thinking. Maybe the virus would die out in the wild.

By December they were in organized cover-up mode and actively suppressing information from Doctors' reports out of their public health system. That broke down by the end of December as the case load became too large to conceal.

The Chinese Government reaction is consistent with the theory that they strongly believed they had accidentally unleashed a highly lethal bio weapon before they had any effective vaccine or treatment for it. They panicked and shut down most of their national economy to get the epidemic under control.

The reactions of other national Governments is consistent with the same theory.

56 posted on 04/07/2020 6:45:04 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: fuzzylogic

How easy/hard to get the test? Haven’t been paying attention but would love for us to get tested..piece of mind.


57 posted on 04/07/2020 6:45:05 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: upchuck

If you had a new bio-weapon and wanted to try it out, the Wuhan games would be an ideal starting place. Competitors from all over the world compete and take the bio-weapon back home with them. Perfect!
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I would like an opinion from a expert epidemiologist regarding the ability of a virus to spread around the world with the rapidity that COVID-19 did without the aid of a massive vector population like the thousands of military participants who went home after the world military games in Wuhan. If those participants were infected when they left Wuhan it would explain why there are now 180 plus countries each with a domestic epidemic on their hands.


58 posted on 04/07/2020 6:55:21 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: rainee

Not heard much. In the UK the antibody tests they thought would be useful are now said to not work :(

Hopefully POTUS can give us an update!


59 posted on 04/07/2020 6:56:51 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: upchuck

If you had a new bio-weapon and wanted to try it out, the Wuhan games would be an ideal starting place. Competitors from all over the world compete and take the bio-weapon back home with them. Perfect!
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I would like an opinion from a expert epidemiologist regarding the ability of a virus to spread around the world with the rapidity that COVID-19 did without the aid of a massive vector population like the thousands of military participants who went home after the world military games in Wuhan. If those participants were infected when they left Wuhan it would explain why there are now 180 plus countries each with a domestic epidemic on their hands.


60 posted on 04/07/2020 6:57:31 PM PDT by iontheball
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