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April 5 COV-19 deaths BELOW "best" projection?
IHME COVID-19 Projections ^ | April 2020 | IHME

Posted on 04/05/2020 6:18:08 PM PDT by Fido969

Worldometer: 1,165 deaths for April 5 report.

IHME model for April 5: Low 1228, High 1760


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: coronavirus
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OK, I've corrected a previous post on this. You numbers whiz guys/gals - is 4/5 under the low projection? Is there more data coming? Is it the Sunday effect, or are results being posted a day behind?

I know we can't draw a conclusion now - it's too early, but does this look good?

Other model issues I noticed -

Maine LOW projection for 04/05: Deaths per day:5; Total deaths: 21. Actual - Today 0, total 10.

1 posted on 04/05/2020 6:18:08 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969

Let’s end this lockdown.


2 posted on 04/05/2020 6:22:56 PM PDT by impimp
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To: impimp

That’s right. Time to get America back to work.


3 posted on 04/05/2020 6:26:00 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Fido969

Allow a few more days to see if this is real. Sunday/Monday numbers have been consistently lower. If it is still real after Tuesday then expect the MSM to report on it in about 3 weeks.


4 posted on 04/05/2020 6:26:12 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: Fido969

The forecast is way off for Ohio. Actual new cases for 4/4 35. Forecast for new cases with extreme social distancing 1063. The forecast is overstated by 30x.


5 posted on 04/05/2020 6:26:57 PM PDT by Gahanna Bob
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To: Fido969

Bump


6 posted on 04/05/2020 6:31:19 PM PDT by stockpirate (Anyone who believes Epstein killed himself is a fool, and the DNC wacked Seth Rich)
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To: Gahanna Bob

The last I heard, the 1000 bed USN hospital ship in NYC had only 3 or 4 patients.


7 posted on 04/05/2020 6:35:46 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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Worldometer closed the books for April 5 and reset the stats for a new day. So 1,165 (U.S. deaths) appears to be final. This is considerably less than April 4, which was over 1,300 U.S. deaths.

689 of those deaths were in the tri-state area of NY/CT/NJ - 59% of total.

Michigan came in with 77 deaths.

Lousiana had 68.

8 posted on 04/05/2020 6:43:50 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (A New Yorker died every 2.12 minutes of Chinese Virus over the past 24 hours)
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To: laplata

I just read where NYC has had net hospital discharges for the 4th day in a row.

These models are worse than climate change hysteria. Michael Mann must be a covid-19 modeler.


9 posted on 04/05/2020 6:45:56 PM PDT by Gahanna Bob
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To: Fido969
I think government is in general a necessary maleficent force, however I am not totally tinfoil -> I just think mankind is by nature, especially in groups, doubly especially in groups with a legal monopoly on the initiation of the use of force, then triply when that force can be bought off in part or in whole ... mankind in groups is a nightmare. So government is at best a bad dream. The US has a bad dream government. That's just the nature of man. We can be glad it's not a total nightmare. I'm sure some would argue it is. I'm merely arguing that relatively it's only a bad dream.

That said -> I would say about a week ago, about when Chris Cuomo 'got sick' ... the government seems to have teamed up with the media to start making people fear the virus. Yes, duh, many were already panicked, but I don't think the government felt people were complying with distancing. So they cooked up a little scare campaign. The numbers they released were intentionally high (I think Gates slipped when he said lower than Fauci and HansBirx's low) ... and then you get Cuomo coming out with his drama queen pinnate crap.

I don't see us (the US, when this is over) coming in much higher than 50 - 70K. But that's napkin math based off other country numbers who are passed the peak, but who the hell knows how accurate their numbers are and of course there is the 'died of' vs 'died with' BS going on, perhaps an evil tinfoil conspiracy, more likely a fear tactic spiced with additional evil motives (lovers of large government plus biopharm execs weeping as they are seeing a jackpot pass by.)

NOW, could one argue that 'it's going to be that low partially BECAUSE the government and media attempted to scare the crap out of people with higher numbers - and hence they distanced better - buying more time for testing, antibody testing, and HQL or it's friends to get mass produced' ... I think one could argue that. I'm not saying they'd be right, I actually don't know.

I think there's a lot of manipulation going on. I'm not convinced it's entirely evil. It may be misdirected and ignorant and elitist, and certainly it's peppered with evil, but I think mankind is as I said at best a bad dream and more often a nightmare.

This whole thing starts out as a bad dream, so if that's all it winds up being, then it's not so much that we did well, but we can be thankful we didn't wind up worse.

In short: Yes, they are bending the numbers intentionally. I personally think it's because they have a mob on their hands that they feel has to be guided through this. In addition to that is a whole hell of a lot of evil players -> but what do you expect?

I think Trump will guide things towards us getting back to work soon, and the flubros will forever claim that they were right ... but the reality is it was always true that the chances of it turning out that way were 5 out of 6. The question is: If I offer you 1000$ to walk through a room that has a 1 in 10 chance of giving you pancreatic cancer ... are you going to walk through it? The flubros claim they would. I think they wouldn't ... but they would have others do it. And, probably whoever went through wouldn't die, and they would say 'see, it wasn't dangerous, I told you so', and they would be right, and also be morons.

None of this is all that cut and dry, except it's time to lay out the plan to get back to work. I suspect that starts end of this week out of Trump.

Oops didn't mean to write that much! :-P ... just thoughts I'm no expert ... back to watching Contagion which, interestingly, has a similar debate especially during the CDC guy's interview about 5/8ths of the way through.

10 posted on 04/05/2020 6:46:04 PM PDT by tinyowl
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Don’t you need to wait until the 6th to get the full count of deaths on the 5th? You have 2-8 more hours of dying, plus time collate the reports.


11 posted on 04/05/2020 6:53:38 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: Gahanna Bob
The forecast is way off for Ohio.

Even using the 4/4 numbers Ohio is better than the "best projection"

Projection - MINIMUMS

04/04 Total: 126 Daily 22

04/05 Total: 151 Daily 25

Actual, reported today: 04/05 Total 117 Daily 17

The places that are having the problems are: New York where DeBlutto told the New Yorkers to go out and celebrate Chinese New Year because... racism; and NOLA where LaToya Jackson told everyone to come to Mardi Gras.

And these fools blame Trump?

12 posted on 04/05/2020 6:57:01 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Wayne07

That’s correct, today’s figures are actually yesterdays.

They also are sometimes adjusted up or down later.

There’s so much noise in the reporting a day means nothing.


13 posted on 04/05/2020 6:59:24 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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Don’t you need to wait until the 6th to get the full count of deaths on the 5th? You have 2-8 more hours of dying, plus time collate the reports.

All states have reported for the 5th. There might be a few adjustments, but the new datat starts the reporting for the 6th. Maybe the reports are a day behind.

The low for the 4th was 1,133. Maybe that was the 1,154 (down from 1165 earlier) reported today.

14 posted on 04/05/2020 7:01:27 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: SaxxonWoods
That’s correct, today’s figures are actually yesterdays.

OK, but if we are in the range, at the low end, that could give us a total of 40K deaths, rather than 100K.

15 posted on 04/05/2020 7:04:47 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Fido969

* Hospitalizations projections are off by 8X
* Ventilator projections off by 40X

Those models were the reasons for Great Depression 2

Links here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/NikolovScience/status/1246823479820693505


16 posted on 04/05/2020 7:06:02 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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Has anybody given the reason why hospital discharges are going up and net positive? I am hoping the cocktail of drugs they are using is working.


17 posted on 04/05/2020 7:07:20 PM PDT by hawkaw
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These models are worse than climate change hysteria. Michael Mann must be a covid-19 modeler.

If we are peaking now, Trump will walk into the next press conference with Fauci's head on stick.

Other we get to listen to this guy BS us forever about how he was actually right because... science.

18 posted on 04/05/2020 7:08:31 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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That’s not the way this works. I hope it turns out to be right though.

Not to worry, things will become clear in a week or so.


19 posted on 04/05/2020 7:16:03 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: Fido969

Not to worry the National Press Corpse will make it sound worse than it is.


20 posted on 04/05/2020 7:17:26 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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