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If you've considered the idea there might be those taking advantage of the pandemic to seize more control and more of our freedom, look at this. If you think China has lied or government models shown at White House press conferences use models that tend to inflate potential deaths, check this out.

It appears the CDC has issued new guidance as of March 24th, that will show the cause of death to be coronavirus in cases that are untested and in those with other serious health problems that may be the real cause.

If we had those in power who wanted to take advantage and seize more power, wouldn't be to their advantage to instill more fear? Just look at what the leftists and the news media are doing already.

1 posted on 04/05/2020 1:08:19 PM PDT by Old Man From WV
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To: Old Man From WV

NY has been padding the numbers, counting everything as coronavirus

Shot a killed by some gang banger piece of garbage? Cornovirus

etc


2 posted on 04/05/2020 1:10:17 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Old Man From WV

In almost all cases of death in this country the probable cause of death is listed as the cause. Sorry to break up your conspiracy theory, but this is nothing new. There aren’t enough medical examiners to go around. And even if you text a corpse to prove they had Covid-19 that does not necessarily make the virus the cause of death. So, what’s the point of testing?


3 posted on 04/05/2020 1:15:31 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (There are only two genders.)
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Here's the CDC directive

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?​,

​ COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc. If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II. (See attached Guidance for Certifying COVID-19 Deaths)​

4 posted on 04/05/2020 1:15:38 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Old Man From WV

“A”, not “the”.

NYC has an average deaths/day of about 202.

Since last Monday, through Saturday’s reporting numbers, the deaths attributed to the Coronavirus alone has been 292/day.

That is so far out from your conspiracy-theory...


10 posted on 04/05/2020 1:30:29 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Old Man From WV

https://youtu.be/zSBgXJpje74


11 posted on 04/05/2020 1:32:14 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (1218 - NEVER FORGET!)
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To: Old Man From WV

The government lied. It’s what governments do.


16 posted on 04/05/2020 1:42:40 PM PDT by motor_racer (If you don't read the news, you are uninformed. If you read the news, you are misinformed.)
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There is always data manipulation. The cops manipulate statistics to make the crime rate appear lower. The schools manipulate data to make it appear kids are learning. The “scientists” manipulate temperature readings to create a narrative about global warming. And so on...

...No surprise that the establishment will want to justify their extreme measures by manipulating the death toll higher. Ironically, the exact opposite of what the Chinese are doing, manipulating the data to show fewer deaths.


24 posted on 04/05/2020 2:11:20 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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You don’t say...
...
https://nationalfile.com/president-trump-vs-bill-gates-on-treatment-fauci-has-a-100-million-conflict-of-interest/


36 posted on 04/05/2020 3:15:41 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Be still, and know that I am God...Psalm 46:10)
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NEVER thought I'd say this, but with each passing day I am losing my faith in Trump. If he can't see he's being taken for one sick ride by the deep state global cabal by FRAUDS like Fauci, Birx and Jerome whatever, we are totally screwed.

Wouldn't surprise me if many of the initial videos coming out of China of pleading doctors and hospitals full of bodies in hallways was ENTIRELY staged to enable our HOSTILE media to HYPE the panic, thus triggering massive shutdowns in the U.S. thereby WRECKING our economy. I'm not saying the Wuhan virus isn't real but IMO it's no greater threat than the TYPICAL FLU so this MEDIA HYPE is meant to KILL TRUMP'S ECONOMIC SUCCESSES AS WELL AS HIS RE-ELECTION BID.

Furthermore, if this DEMPANIC is going to be SEASONAL, what's the point of lock-downs?

When Trump LIFTS the lock downs and bans, watch the COMMIE Governors of California and NY KEEP THE LOCK DOWNS IN PLACE. THAT'S when the fun starts, people. I'm talking CIVIL WAR time, folks, but then again the DEEP STATE MASTERS OF THIS CONSPIRACY ARE PROBABLY HOPING FOR THAT.

37 posted on 04/05/2020 3:16:37 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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Since most of those dying of covid are older and have preexisting conditions, no one other than Germany is taking the time to determine if covid was the actual cause of death rather than the preexisting condition being the cause and coincidentally the patient had covid. That is why Germany has the lowest mortality rate of covid patients in the world .8, less than 1%. I would think that the global mortality rate would be closer to Germany’s than Italy’s as Italy counts all deaths that have covid as a covid deaths in their numbers even if covid was not the actual cause


42 posted on 04/05/2020 3:27:52 PM PDT by chuckee
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