HUGE! From CDC Website: Hospitals to List COVID-19 as Cause of Death Even if It's "Assumed to Have Caused Or Contributed to Death" - Lab Tests Not Required

GATEWAY PUNDIT ^ | 4/4/2020 | Christina Laila

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This is a new directive. I assume in the past if you died of pneumonia while also having a viral infection such as the flu the cause of death for reporting purposes would most likely be pneumonia.

Of course, that would understate total deaths caused by the flu in past years if they had been required to use this new criterion.

It's just the flu, bro!

Turns out the flu deaths were brushed off as pneumonia and under reported, bro!

[FreedomNotSafety]

Guess that elimates The Flu deaths for the rest of the season. Sloppy lazy practices exist within all industry. This one tied nicely with Trumps order to pay for hospital care of the uninsured. Now the hospitals can generate cad with sloppy diagnosis.

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but some see a conspiracy everywhere.

There are conspiracies everywhere. The only saving grace is those conspiracies keep interfering with each other!

(s) nully, who runs the Nut-Job Conspiracy Theory ping list...

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NYC had 2,220 deaths from Influenza and Pneumonia in 2014 - an entire year. It had 2,254 deaths from with Covid19 in 10 days.

There.

Fixed...

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Worth repeating:

Hospitals will be under INTENSE financial pressure to treat as many deaths as they can as COVID deaths, in order to be reimbursed by federal funds -- ESPECIALLY hospitals which get lots of Medicaid and uninsured patients.

[griswold3]

Whoa there. I made a similar comment here. It did not go well

[Monkey Face]

This is the stupidest thing I’ve heard of since this whole COVID-19 scam began. And I understand its a cold and not even the flu, which explains why cold remedies work.

GAH!

Let’s get this country back to work!!!

[gogeo]

Take care!

[9422WMR]

So a lady walking on the sidewalk sneezed, and her dog ran into the street causing a bicycle to swerve into the traffic lane where impact with a motorcycle resulted in death for both bicyclist and motorcyclist.
News report states:
Covid19 case results in human to canine transmission killing two healthy people in Florida. Dog was uninjured.

[a fool in paradise]

we will also see a “sharp increase in deaths attributed to cv19”

[David Chase]

Who is “they”?

Is “they” V.P. Pence?

Is “they” Republican Governors?

Ben Carson?

Sec. of Defense?

Sec. of State?

An entire administration?

Because President Trump has been the final say what we do as a nation. Now either Trump is out to get Trump, or he’s not the 8 D chess player but rather stupid or you trust him and his decisions.

Trump doesn’t listen to the media and doesn’t allow their bias impact his decisions.

“They” are Trump. He makes the calls.

[no-to-illegals]

Everyone wants to lie to the People .... it is the way of those seeking the destruction of America .... simply the usual suspects .....

[FreedomNotSafety]

Dr or not, circular reasoning is flawed logic.

[gas_dr]

Actually I take my marching orders from a lifetime devoted to understanding and treating disease. In America you have the God given right to being a moron. So you be you. But your are absolutely, unequivocally and totally wrong.

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While looking up PUI I found this little gem...

The nCoV ID should be included on all PUI and Case Report Forms, specimen testing submission documents (i.e., form 50.34 or GFAT) and shipping labels. All specimens need an nCoV ID for submission to CDC laboratories for testing.

I read this a merely a warning to the lab folks and care providers to be extra careful, as this sample may be more dangerous than usual, or this patient may be more infectious than usual.

Still, I can see this as contributing to the hysteria.

[gas_dr]

Then you are definitively contributing the the problem as the positive rate of CoVId testing is 10-12%. So I truly hope you are not filing out the death certificates. Often wrong never in doubt is a poor way to practice medicine.

[bgill]

Further proof CV tests are precious few. Not enough for the living so don’t waste them on the dead.

A local board here was full of people complaining they couldn’t get tested even though they had the symptoms or were around the 3-4 people who were confirmed for the county. So many were sick but are turned away from medical care until they are in respiratory stress which is too late. The county/s health dept. authority has said the same about not tests but many, many more cases here.

[kvanbrunt2]

What if someone is hit by a car or shot in a robbery, then dies ... but coronoavirus is later found in them ...

are they classified as a corona death?

Now you are being ridiculous.>>>

And then there is this https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/candace-owens-accuses-connecticut-governor-of-lying-about-coronavirus-death-calls-for-resignation

[sox_the_cat]

So are all of those formerly ILI attributable deaths now classified as Covid-19 deaths?

If you look at all of the negative tests in this country, they must have some virus similar to Covid-19 in order to get tested.

Ultimately, could this cause the Covid-19 death rate to be overstated and something like influenza understated?

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I’m assuming that wasn’t directed at me...