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To: ocrp1982
I wish the doc had given some suggestions...hyperbaric chambers?...frequent blood transfusions?...dialysis .....

how do we improve the blood oxygenation?...

agree that being on a vent too long can be harmful in itself....

any docs here want to weigh in?

13 posted on 04/04/2020 2:58:13 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
"agree that being on a vent too long can be harmful in itself...."

A nurse just spoke on Hannity. Patients put on ventilators have lungs too far gone to work for themselves. In a nut shell, patients on ventilators are ready to go Home.

52 posted on 04/04/2020 4:01:30 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: cherry

I wish the doc had given some suggestions...hyperbaric chambers?...frequent blood transfusions?...dialysis .....
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I’m no doc but it sound to me like the alveoli are paralyzed and unable to open and close as they should to move oxygen into the hemoglobin and remove CO2. If this is the case, no amount of air pressure will help. The approach must be early intervention with HQC, zinc, and Z-pak, but the notorious N.Y governor still stands by his executive order banning HQC. Did you hear Trump today saying he is going to talk to his doc to see if he could take HQC as a prophylactic therapy? No one asked a question about Cuomo’s ban.


63 posted on 04/04/2020 4:18:32 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: cherry

I like your suggestion of hyperbaric oxygen.


65 posted on 04/04/2020 4:19:21 PM PDT by AZLiberty (4/12: The Resurrection will be echoed by the resurrection of the Constitutional Republic of the USA.)
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To: cherry; All

heart lung machine could directly oxygenate the blood to give time for the lungs to heal.... Code icing the patients to reduce their metabolic demands might help like they do with stemi mi’s and certain strokes...high frequency ultrasound with regular percussion and vibration might break up the consoldations in the lungs.


98 posted on 04/04/2020 5:10:28 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: cherry

Having been on dialysis and handling the machine myself, that is NOT something that oxygenates the blood. Risk to exposure is also high; infection of any kind can happen easily. Even with a fistula. If a patient contacts MRSA while sick with COVID, it’s death.

You are quite literally exposing a patient’s vessels, and putting a patient through surgery, because an access needs to be inserted surgically. Hemo or peritoneal, surgery is necessary for first-time patients.


124 posted on 04/04/2020 6:15:56 PM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: cherry

Magnesium for blood oxygenation.


126 posted on 04/04/2020 6:20:08 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: cherry

I hope that you’re asking in jest.

Destruction of lung tissues’ ability to oxygenate the blood is a death sentence unless the infection can be overcome. The doc’s right: A ventilator does NOTHING but buy time, and “hope” that the patient can survive long enough to defeat the virus before their lungs are destroyed.

If doctors choose to seek the pharmacological approach over others, that’s their business. But it’s our business to call them out for their hypocrisy in denying their patients a possible cure as their patients die.

To-wit: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3831003/posts

The fear being projected upon everyone else to compel compliance with illegal suspension of assembly, travel and commerce is criminal of the first order.


142 posted on 04/04/2020 10:31:28 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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