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Visualization: How spring breakers (probably) spread coronavirus throughout America
Hot Air ^ | March 27, 2020 | Allahpundit

Posted on 03/27/2020 1:59:36 PM PDT by C19fan

The eastern half of America, anyway. Which is where the hot spots are, coincidentally.

This is a few days old but worth watching as a demonstration of why reopening parts of the country while outbreaks are raging in other parts is an invitation to disaster. Unless states are going to start closing their borders to each other, infected people will keep bringing the virus in from outside.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; millennials; virus
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To: dp0622

I curious, do you know that the total nation wide serious/critical cases is 2,436?

That the daily rate of increase of serious/critical cases in the USA is pretty steady at 250?

I will do the math for you 250 x 100 days = 2,500. And that is total number of case so while that number is added to daily it will also be reduced by the number of resolved cases as people move out of the serious/critical category.

Do you know if you are under 60 with no underlying health issues your recovery rate is 99.96%?

The risk group for this is about 2% of the population. I am in that 2% high risk group and I see what an absurdity is being done here

How about stop being a panic stricken chicken little and start dealing in facts for once?


21 posted on 03/27/2020 2:39:22 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Da Coyote

those useless degree grads will all get jobs in govt...which is why are govt is so screwed up..


22 posted on 03/27/2020 2:40:03 PM PDT by cherry
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To: C19fan

This is like watching a slow motion train wreck over and over, everywhere.

Mardi Gras
Spring break
Neighborhood barbecues
Birthday party’s
....


23 posted on 03/27/2020 2:45:34 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (I'm essential!)
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To: clearcarbon
When do the snowbirds migrate back to their northern homes?

They should be starting in a week or so.

When we homeschooled, we'd go visit my in-laws in late April and early May and it was always wonderful.

It was not very crowded because many of the snowbirds had left already and many were in process.

And since spring break was long since over, it was nice and quiet and we had the beach pretty much to ourselves.

So, yeah, the spring break crowd is long gone, and there's a pause and then the snow birds. Just in time to get back and sick and find out that the spring break crowd beat them here and are just starting to overload the hospitals with active cases of COVID because of the incubation period.

Honestly, the hospitals in FL are good at dealing with critical cases as they have so many because of the senior population so it might be worth them to stay longer.

Excepting for the complicating little detail of all the NY downstaters heading there and likely carrying the virus with them.

So the spring breakers and snowbirds are coming north, taking it with them.

And the NYC folks are heading for the south, taking that with them.

I guess there's nowhere safe.

Might be a good time to stock up before the next wave hits.

24 posted on 03/27/2020 2:46:13 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: dp0622

+1 The Florida Governor was a moron to let Spring Break beach parties run wild. But I guess we should at least be thankful he isn’t that naked drug addict vomiting homo.

It’s almost like, the best and brightest people are not rising to the top in our nation lately.


25 posted on 03/27/2020 2:53:52 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

And millions are dying for it!!!

Oh, that’s right, no they aren’t.


26 posted on 03/27/2020 2:55:55 PM PDT by Professional
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To: DesertRhino

Drugs are not what he is addicted to.


27 posted on 03/27/2020 2:56:20 PM PDT by sport
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To: MNJohnnie

Want to check your math again?


28 posted on 03/27/2020 3:01:13 PM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (I'll be good, I will. I will.)
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To: CatOwner

If I am not mistaken, DeSantis was elected in 2018 and will not be on the ballot this year.


29 posted on 03/27/2020 3:04:22 PM PDT by witherspoonsniece
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To: C19fan

GOVid-535, their agencies, and propagandists are orders of magnitude more deadly. Witness history. Ours. The debt, taxed-into-death and wars undeclared, make this nation the #1 killing machine in the world since the ‘60s, 1973 and forward. Hard kill, soft kill continues. Today’s “war against an invisible enemy” = more subjugation, less Constitutional rights. An electromagnetic curtain has descended over the republic. Tune in to the spectrum for further demands.


30 posted on 03/27/2020 3:09:06 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: witherspoonsniece

The damage wouldn’t necessarily be to DeSantis, although there will be some of it. It is to damage Trump and the GOP by association.


31 posted on 03/27/2020 3:11:45 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: C19fan

First, I want to say that I am an engineer with no medical experience. However, I do understand numbers and statistics quite well. I think I understand how a flu would spread.

This analysis is predicated on the idea that people with mild cases do develop antibodies. This was clearly not the consensus early in January, but now seems to be accepted as the case.

So, my “pure speculation” is this: When presented with the possibility of a pandemic, one could cause the population to go into quarantine or lock down TOO SOON!

Assume that President Trump had ordered the borders to be entirely secured in late December and assume that that had been soon enough for no cases to disperse anywhere in the U.S. Also, assume that governors everywhere had asked people to stay home and not socialize beginning in January.

The results of that action could have resulted in NO U.S. cases, if effectively applied. However, it would have also resulted in nobody developing any antibodies. Thus, as soon as the quarantines were lifted, any infected person entering the formerly quarantined area would have been our patient zero and the pandemic would be on. The only advantage to such a scenario would be if a vaccine and/or drug treatments had been developed during the period of quarantine.

On the other hand, if one allows the virus entry and waits until a small number of cases develop. Some of these will become serious and there will be some deaths. After some dragging of feet, one then exerts some degree of control on the borders and adopts quarantines and social distancing. This strategy only works if the virus is allowed to spread over most of the geography being managed.

The result should be that further spread of the virus is reduced. The existing cases should not overwhelm the medical system. Thus, unlike in Italy, choices about who gets a ventilator should not even be required.

Meanwhile, while the population is quarantined, those with mild cases are building antibodies and recovering. Remember, these are the people who contracted it, in the first place. So they would be the prime suspects if a second wave were to occur. But now, they have antibodies!

So after a suitable time, one can lift the lock downs and reduce the quarantines. Unlike the first scenario, when new cases arrive at your borders, there are already a lot of your own people who will not be at risk and not be in a position to pass it on to those in the second tier of socialization.

So, this is totally my speculation, for what it’s worth.


32 posted on 03/27/2020 3:15:52 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Professional

“And millions are dying for it!!!

Oh, that’s right, no they aren’t.”

I’m just a little nervous, as I’m in the vulnerable group.
Participating in the herd immunity experiment might be the end of me.

But...Bless your heart.


33 posted on 03/27/2020 3:27:55 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (I'm essential!)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

As vulnerable as you are, I’m sure you wouldn’t encourage the world to stop so that you and other “vulnerable” people can have some false sense of security. You wouldn’t inflict that on your kids, grandkids certainly right? Bless you back, stay safe, and pray to God like it’s your last day. I always do.


34 posted on 03/27/2020 3:30:13 PM PDT by Professional
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To: cherry

“what the hell do they expect when you tell people that can’t shop, eat out, drink out, .....”

We had the same restrictions on the Coast. Now we have more restrictions plus the virus.


35 posted on 03/27/2020 4:13:55 PM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: Rurudyne

It’s called a hyperbole.


36 posted on 03/27/2020 4:46:28 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Professional

37 posted on 03/27/2020 6:11:09 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (I'm essential!)
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To: CatOwner

Probably - because he didn’t go full-blown despot mode...can you imagine if he had tried to physically drain the beaches of the folks who defied and massed to party anyway? Think Kent State x 100...then the question might be how many we are willing to kill to save others...


38 posted on 03/28/2020 3:27:49 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: cherry

We just had a second case, another health care worker, an EMT. I had heard an ambulance run last weekend at the height of the tourist influx. Other health care workers that came into contact with those are now in quarantine.

I am not sure how many of our health care workers are out of commission now.


39 posted on 03/28/2020 12:49:35 PM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: MNJohnnie

25000=250 casesx100days


40 posted on 03/28/2020 12:56:15 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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