Posted on 02/27/2020 9:24:11 AM PST by Vermont Lt
WELL!
You certainly won't be getting a Christmas card from ME this year.
Hmmph.
Excellent post and advice, thank you for helping educate people about what to expect.
We just came off one of the worst if not the worst flu season in the US. A and B, not just B but B/Victoria, which - while from a different family than Covid - also attempts to drown its victims in pnemuonia.
SO the US is a pool of immune-active individuals.
For some - smokers with high ACE2 (and the more improbable prior SARS vaccination) - that's not going to be protection. For the most of the rest of us, it likely is.
Can there be any doubt that millions of Chinese are likely exposed and their immune systems fought it off without so much as a sniffle.
I remember the hysteria surrounding A/New Jersey/1976 (H1N1) aka swine flu. When the pandemic failed to materialize in the US, the public turned sour on the immunization program (the vaccination produced Guillain–Barré syndrome in some people). That's where we will be in December.
In total, 48,161,019 Americans, or just over 22% of the population, had been immunized by the time the National Influenza Immunization Program was effectively halted on December 16, 1976.Recompensation charges were filed for over 4,000 cases of severe vaccination damage, including 25 deaths, totalling US$3.5 billion, by 1979.
Indeed, there’s a lot more to consider than just the virus, and IMO, the looming election is one of them.
I do not see a good outcome no matter who gets elected.
If Trump wins again, I see repeats plus some, of what happened in 2016.
If, God forbid, a democrat socialist gets elected, kiss this country goodbye and be ready for Venezuela type scenarios.
I recognize that there is no way someone can prep for a lifetime survival of like the next 20 years, but if everyone had enough stuff for a few months, it would take a lot of pressure off the system and the glitches and bumps would not have such a major impact with others, who are not prepared and panicking.
It was not too long and your credentials are impressive.
Thanks for posting.
Yup.
I expect shenanigans over this.
I expected them anyway this year because, election.
I expect them to be even more shenaniganny now.
You have an obviously better memory for “flu facts” than I do. I remember memorizing a great number when I took the board exam. But you mention one thing, the immune response of potentially infected in the USA. If no one mounts an immune response that probably won’t be a factor. Just what that means especially in terms of “unintended consequences” I have no idea. Out of hundreds of possible outcomes “Capt. Tripps” may still be on the table in some, as of now, yet unheard of way.
Obviously, there must be some way for people to fight this off or there wouldn’t be survivors. So how do people recover if there is no immune response? A lot here just doesn’t make sense. How much is propaganda and that’s why?
Needs to be repeated.
Barring immediate life threatening conditions stay away from ER especially. Consult your doctor first.
Had occassion to resort to ER for cardiac problem...while waiting for test results in the ERC observation unit had the chance to survey my surroundings...noticed seriously cracked baseboard tiles, some with pieces missing, exposing sizeable voids, perfect places for breeding nasties. Sloppy cheap remodeling in one of the richest counties in the USA. Left against medical advice soon as test results returned negative.
“The short read: Wash your hands. A lot. Have three weeks worth of food. And if it appears in your town, stay the hell away from the hospital if you want to live.”
See was that so hard?
And...duh.
*grin*
Veryyy Nice. Thanks for all you do from the NH side of the Conn.
I really think we’ve likely got designer antivirals on the shelf somewhere that will ameliorate this for pretty much all but the severe cases that might have succumbed to something else anwyays.
The hope is that we have enough and can ramp up rapidly if we don’t.
You LOVE these threads. You’re addicted.
(1) We've heard there's a "2%" mortality rate with coronavirus compared to below 1% for regular flu.
I strongly suspect the actual % of deaths to infections for Coronavirus is MUCH lower.
Commie countries are notorious for fabricating data and false numbers. I don't think they have a handle on the number of people with infections - most of them mild, not "deadly."
(2) Prices for supplies imported from China are actual data we can use, to verify what is happening. If we see prices rising dramatically over the next few months - that will confirm it is really deadly, not just widespread sniffles.
(3) The hysteria about this Virus, to date, seems mostly a bunch of last gasp, "RUSSIA"! type spin from the 'Rats as their non-serious POTUS "candidates" circle the drain......
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity, but don’t rule out malice.” Heinlein
“Or sarcasm” Crim
Just went to the Walstore here in Podunk Arkansas. No panic buying yet, but toilet paper shelves are a little empty and you can’t find a face mask anywhere in town.
Hand sanitizer also seems to be a popular item as everyone seemed to have some in their cart, but there seemed to be a substantial supply still available.
I do have a case of Costco vodka and a couple cases of those ranch beans with the jalapenos put aside for a rainy day!
We were in Lowe’s a couple days ago and an elderly worker there told us all the Chinese students at the local university bought all the masks and respirators they had.
.....couple cases of those ranch beans with the jalapenos....
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Lol
With the japs are the best. ...the only kind that I buy.
Another is ramen. ..boil water and you have a tasty noodle soup....
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