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To: OIFVeteran

“And revolution is treason.”

Do you apply that to the Revolutionary War too? I guess it was but there is righteous “treason”...such as the revolution and secession and then there is the evil criminal treason of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, the Obama administration, democrat politicians etc.


54 posted on 02/27/2020 8:48:45 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bonemaker

Yes, what the founders did was treason, against the British Crown. When they invoked the natural right of revolution and rebelled you then have to look at why they did it to see if they were morally justified in their actions. Let’s do this by comparing the American Revolution with the southern rebellion.

RW = the Revolutionary War, ACW = the American Civil War.

The rebelling party was a full member of the body politic:
RW: no. ACW: yes

The rebelling party had willfully and freely entered into the government from which it was rebelling:
RW: no. ACW: yes

The rebelling party had access to full representation on the national stage:
RW: no. ACW: yes

The rebelling party had attempted to have their grievances redressed, and hostilities began before they declared separation and independence:
RW: yes. ACW: No

The rebelling party began their rebellion after losing a free and fair election in which they were a full participant:
RW: no. ACW: yes

The rebelling party made clear in their documents of separation that their main concern was protecting chattel slavery of the African race:
RW: no. ACW: yes

The rebelling party made clear their right to separation through war and de facto independence:
RW: yes. ACW: no

As you can see there is absolutely no comparison between what our founding fathers did in 1776 and what the southern rebels did in 1861.


57 posted on 02/27/2020 9:34:12 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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