Posted on 02/20/2020 6:45:35 AM PST by C19fan
After more than 50 years on the air, Star Trek has become a sort of universal vision of the future. Where other stories imagine a world torn by war, or at the mercy of technology run wild, Star Trek imagines, if not the best possible future, one very close to it.
Creator Gene Roddenberry's vision of humanity in the 23rd and 24th centuries unifies the planet, does away with grand-scale internal conflict, erases the need for a money-based economy, and opens up a whole galaxy of possibilities for the human species. The result is a people working together to create art, advance science, and explore the cosmos. We break the light-speed barrier, visit strange new worlds, enjoy lifelike virtual reality simulations, and crack teleportation. Distances both near and far are within our grasp. It's a veritable utopia, challenged only by external threats. Or at least it was, until Star Trek: Picard premiered.
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From Memory Alpha:
“A type-1 phaser was the smallest, most basic weapon carried by Starfleet and other Federation personnel. Type 1 phasers were typically carried when it would be inappropriate to carry a larger weapon, such as on diplomatic missions, or “undercover” work.”
The Type-2 phaser (phaser pistol) was a more powerful version that had additional capabilities, like being set to act as a cutting beam, etc. Some models basically had a Type-1 docked to it which could be removed if you didn’t need the larger frame.
Eph 2:5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
Eph 2:6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
Our Spirit is alive in Jesus at the right hand of the Father right now. God is Spirit so we are alive in Heaven known to God right now. We have a soul (or mind) which tells us that our body needs food and water, needs a blanket if you are cold, and whatever else is needed to support your flesh. Our sin natured body is dying and will die some day.
Our Spirit is already made alive in Heaven and we will receive a Resurrected body in order to be as Jesus is. The only thing left is saving our soul to become a 3 part being in Heaven. Your soul (or mind) must be put in subjection to the Holy Spirit living inside you. There is a war going on with your soul and the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit MUST win out.
Who you really are is the Spirit in Heaven with Jesus. He will give us a new container to hold your Spirit and soul while in Heaven. This was described in Matthew as a Mansion in the Fathers House. Our bodies are called a tent, tabernacle, temple, abode, ect. What we will get upon Rapture or death is a "mansion" compared to the tent we live in now. It won't get sick or die and can stand in front of God without burning up. We will walk through walls and travel through time and space in this new body.
If science could figure out how to transfer a spirit and soul and transfer it to another location, then they have mimic'd Nimrod's Tower and could get to Heaven without God. If we can transfer soul and spirit into a pig carcass, that would qualify as demons. Transferring a body from "A" to "B" probably can be done some day, but it won't be alive or have it's soul or spirit. It's just a clay vessel as Adam was in Genesis before God breathed into his nostrils.
IMO, we might be able to transfer atoms of flesh from A to B, but it will be dead flesh and certainly not contain who we really are as people. Go to a graveyard and dig up a body and then go 10 miles away and re-bury it. Bingo! You have just transported a body. Who it really is is somewhere else.
The same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead lives in a Christian today. You hear NDE people speak about going towards the "Light" at breakneck speeds. The Holy Spirit that lives in a Christian will bring your soul to Heaven to receive a new body. There is only One Holy Spirit and men will never be able to copy what He can do. Transferring spirits can only be done by God and angels.
Another look at transporter technology was during an episode of the rebooted Outer Limits, Think Like a Dinosaur .
Balance the equation. The original is incinerated after scanning.
Another look at transporter technology was during an episode of the rebooted Outer Limits, Think Like a Dinosaur .
Balance the equation. The original is incinerated after scanning.
That’s why the remake of Battlestar Galactica was so damn cool, IMHO. The ship operated like an aircraft carrier. Things broke. Things wore out. The people were personally flawed and sometimes it affected their missions.
Your post pretty much describes what I’m thinking when I use my “video game” analogy.
The part I didn’t mention was that I see all living creatures (other than plants) as the equivalent of NPC’s in video games. We call the pre-programming “instinct” and in men we call it the “natural man”.
In a video game, an NPC (Non Player Character) is pre-programmed with a limited number of responses to the game “field” and interaction with other NPC’s as well as PC’s (Player characters).
So we are all born NPC’s. The natural man has an automatic response to stimuli. We want to eat, procreate, increase positive stimulus, etc. But when we are “saved”, we become PC’s - spiritual men. But the PC occupies that same NPC body.
So I see all non-believers as “NPC’s and potential PC’s.
This also speaks to my belief that only the saved receive eternal life (John 3:16). The NPC’s simply die, taking their NPC pre-programming with them at the second death. They are gone forever. This is the Gehenna/Hell Jesus speaks of. They are utterly consumed by “fire”. And some argue that that fire is God himself, the Consuming Fire.
I am surprised no one has mentioned the 1958 classic movie, “The Fly.”
“When a fly enters the teleportation device with him, disaster strikes.”
The show itself played with this concept; once with the accident that created two versions of Riker, and once when Scotty used the technology to lock himself in a loop, to keep himself alive in the computer in the hopes someone could come and rescue him.
The transporter was of course just an outgrowth of the duplicator. In both cases we were changing matter to energy, and storing a pattern; the duplicators could change the pattern back to matter; the transporter supposedly deleted the pattern, and had some unknown capability to transfer what one would think of as “soul” (the alternative being that we declare there is no such thing as soul, and the transporter instead has just mapped every synapse in your brain, with the current state value).
The duplicator, combined with the relatively infinite power avialability of trilithium crystals, would practically speaking destroy the concept of economy. Nobody has to ever produce anything, because we have an infinite energy source that can generate an infinite number of items. We just need to create them once, and store the pattern.
Why did anybody grow any food, once we could simply duplicate it? The show sometimes had people complaining that the stored food didn’t taste quite right. But that implies that the duplication is NOT perfect, and if not perfect, the transporters had to in fact be mutating people in bad ways.
yeah, now moved on to different solar system, but been a while since i watched end of S04 - seems to be just ramping up again for finding who the life killers are, S05 should be good
Science fiction is often about imagining things that are impossible now but may be possible in the future. Jules Vern imagined going to the moon and submarines that could travel for thousands of miles underwater. Less than a century later such impossible things were real. Star Trek had handheld communicators, flat panel displays and voice command computers that seem primitive compared to what is available to consumers today.
There was also an episode where they kept a person in the transporter to “slightly alter” them to remove some disease or something.
That was when they “broke” the transporter similar to how they “broke” hyperspace in one of the later Star Wars movies.
That is, if they were able to do what they did, it means that all medicine could be replaced by simply beaming someone into another room and manupulating their signal before they re-appear - be it setting a broken bone, removing cancer, or even making them immortal.
Boring? really? - its the most realistic space show ever - down to reading the instruments and figuring out speed arrival time etc.
Now that they are in a different solar system and hunting the killers of all life should be even more interesting.
sounds like you should stick to comedy and sitcoms
BSG, even in the re-launch, was much better at actual technology.
ALthough they never explained why their launch bay needed a runway and a rail system; space ships can hover, so why waste power and technology on having an entire aircraft-carrier worth of ship getting extended out the side, to open up launch tubes so you could “shoot” your ships out? and then having them fly in at high speed so you need to hit marks to stop them, rather than have them slow down and enter.
They essentially treated their space ships as if they were airplanes and needed air-speed to “fly”.
And they used phasers to heat rocks to keep warm, but the phasers were “losing power”, even though we never saw them plug in phasers into a recharging bank. ANd why not just use the phasers to dig a hole in the ground or rock, so you could get inside , and THEN generate heat? And why not have the ship use IT’S phasers to blast a huge hole that would be heated up already? That episode was stupid.
“.....even making them immortal. ....”
There was a ST:TNG episode were the late James Doohan - Scotty purposely put himself in a “transporter loop” because of an accident. He was saved “years” later by the TNG crowd specifically the blind infrared vision engineer guy (whose name escapes me!). So in a since he made himself immortal, or at least in some form of digital cold storage.
Weren’t we already sick of Rikers when there was just one of him?
Most people think of who they are as their body. God knew us in Heaven and placed us into a fetus in the womb. That is why a Christian must be pro life. We must realize that even a deformed child is a person in God's eyes. Just as Terri Schiavo was a live real person in the eyes of God, yet we murdered her as we might a rabid dog. Even a dog would not have been starved to death. A person is more than just skin. I can accept a machine used to transport a bowling ball 100 miles, but to transfer a human will never happen IMO.
It might prove to be an effective way to commit genocide however. You might transfer a bunch of people to a pile of bodies to be incinerated.We may need "Soilent Green" some day. Some Democrats are already discussing when they take over health care they will refuse service to Christians that won't approve of sodomy and abortion. A registered Republican will have a target on their back.
Yeah, that one added to the breakage of the Transporter concept.
I could imagine one of those in every home or apartment complex and you just go in every year or so to get your “biological cleansing” for the next year, and you never age as long as you get the cleansing every year.
Bottom line is that the more we brainstorm the implications of the transporter, the more implausible it becomes.
Like the holodeck. If such a thing is ever invented, we would all become instantly hooked on it.
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