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To: Jacquerie
Jacquerie:

You will be aware that I have been posting for some years now on these threads concerning Article V that it would probably require some sort of "black swan" event in order to bestir an otherwise lethargic American public to pursue constitutional remedies to restore the Constitution.

There is a chance, albeit a small chance and one that I certainly do not want to present as a high probability, that this coronavirus might prove so grave a disruptive health and economic disaster that desperate Americans will seek new constitutional revolutionary remedies.

If we mirror to any significant degree the convulsions now going on in China, our country will likely be ready to change our government. This, of course, cuts both ways: the left has a history of never letting a good crisis go to waste and we conservatives are famous for missing every chance. We conservatives will attempt to cope with wrenching dislocations, disintegration of the healthcare system, widespread death, even starvation as the entire civil society begins to disintegrate by lawful and constitutional process. We know the left will not scruple about process, they will go for the jugular, they will seek ultimate power.

I pray that no such black swan occurs, history confirms my instincts and tell me that we will dodge this bullet, but if we are put to the test, we must be as prepared as my ancestors were prepared to defend our liberty.

We do not want the situation to disintegrate to the point where we must choose between Article V remedies constitutionally enacted and a civil war.


4 posted on 02/17/2020 3:31:44 AM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Americans have become so adverse to violence, so unquestioningly law-abiding and humble, that one wonders if we still have the backbone to stand up for our liberties. The Sons of Liberty would have long ago started shooting.


5 posted on 02/17/2020 4:42:13 AM PST by DNME (The only solution to a BAD guy with a gun is a GOOD guy with a gun.)
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To: nathanbedford

If anything, coronavirus will lead to more power to the government, not less. Such was the case with the 9-11-2001 attack.

The political left and political right are convenient temporary labels used to divide the people. Power doesn’t care what labels are used for that purpose.

The people are not willing to take the risks that accompany personal liberty. They much prefer to loot the public treasury.


6 posted on 02/17/2020 4:48:25 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: nathanbedford

“We do not want the situation to disintegrate to the point where we must choose between Article V remedies constitutionally enacted and a civil war.”

I do not consider Article V and remedies to be part of an equation. Remedies for what? A broken Constitution? Don’t think so. Broken Government? Maybe, but an Article V Convention hardly offers a remedy for runaway Congressman or Senators. It can empower such to continue their quest for Socialism/Progressivism depending on the results and I am not talking about ratified results, but the optics and the usurpation of the Article V process, by the left and the media.

The problem as has been stated over and over again, is NOT the Constitution, it is the hearts and minds of those elected to the Congress, and approved by the Senate to sit on The Supreme Court, who refuse to acknowledge the Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land, and no Article V Convention is going to change the hearts and minds of those people, or those who will ultimately be participants in such a Convention.

The Great State of South Dakota has once again chosen wisely to vote down a yearly effort to pass just such a Resolution requesting The Congress to consider a convention.


7 posted on 02/17/2020 4:55:05 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: nathanbedford
The extent of our liberties isn’t supposed to depend on the outcome of presidential elections, but that is where we are. From the Left’s reactions, the 2016 election was a Black Swann event; it was so distant as to be an impossibility. Obama, Hillary and accomplices so fixed the primaries against Bernie and the general against a reality TV schmuck . . . there was some 99+% probability of her election. Or so the world was told. [BTW, never believe your own press releases.]

An evil and mentally ill President Hillary was primed to reward her camp followers and positively silence the opposition through any means necessary. She would have made peace with the Bernie-Bots, and thanks to Project Veritas we know for a fact that you and I and the rest of Freeperdom were the designated head-of-the-class internees at their Happy Valley Reeducation Centers.

I don’t claim insight into Chaos Theory, but if it is analogous to one marble colliding with another, then another . . . and the travel of each depends on the slightest of deflections, then yes, , we should be prepared for the worst, because the Left is locked and loaded to take advantage of every chaotic opportunity.

9 posted on 02/17/2020 5:02:10 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: nathanbedford

One of the things about imaging China’s situation here is how “pissed” the “Low information” folks would be at how helpless an overwhelmed healthcare system would be.

Can you imagine sealing apartment buildings closed in Brooklyn? Or Chicago. Their people don’t have guns....we do.

I am not suggesting this is going to happen—in my wildest imagination. But watching what is happening should be giving people pause.


15 posted on 02/17/2020 7:02:36 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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