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1 posted on 02/12/2020 6:30:25 PM PST by No.6
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2 posted on 02/12/2020 6:33:34 PM PST by No.6
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I admit I know little about ballistics or how good a 380 is supposed to be.

But I’ve owned 2 380 autos, our daughter 1. We just were not impressed.

The next on the ladder is the 9 mm. I’ve owned three of those, and in terms of accuracy and penetration, they are OK.

But my favorites are the 38, 357, 40 and 45. If you’ve got to get serious with an opponent, then you need serious hardware.

Then there’s the 410 Taurus Judge firing pellets or discs. You just cannot miss and the penetration is awesome.


4 posted on 02/12/2020 6:52:47 PM PST by redfreedom
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The .380 you have with you beats the 9mm in the night stand every time.

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5 posted on 02/12/2020 6:55:44 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: No.6

I’ve done some of my own testing of Critical Defense ammo in my Ruger LCP. I would NOT want to get shot with one of these things.


6 posted on 02/12/2020 6:57:22 PM PST by CrazyIvan (The Democrat party. A collaboration of Cloward-Piven and Dunning-Kruger.)
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According to DOJ crime statistics, guns are used somewhere between 235,700 and 2,500,000 times per year to stop crimes, 98% of the time without a shot being fired.

In other words, a .22 is as good as a Howitzer 98% of the time.

Source: GunFacts.info

https://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/7.0/gun-facts-7.0-screen.pdf


7 posted on 02/12/2020 6:57:28 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Truth is hate to people who hate truth.)
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As always, thank you for your efforts.

I think the big takeaway is that the .380 is not the perfect self defense round.

But neither is any other pistol round, with the possible exception of the big boomers.

It’s rare that anyone carries a big boomer everywhere.

But if you need something credible and light, .380 with a good round is adequate.

And there’s at least a half dozen good rounds.

Saber, Hornady and Federal to start.

Aim for the eyes. Or the groin.


8 posted on 02/12/2020 6:59:23 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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One of the more interesting defensive rounds for the .380ACP is made by Underwood and is loaded with a machined solid copper projectile made by Lehigh. It weighs 90 grains and has an advertised velocity of 1100 FPS. Of course, YMMV. The flutes in the projectile are made to cause a level of hydrostatic shock much in excess of the .355” diameter of the projectile. It is barrier blind and does not need to expand to be effective. I load these rounds in my Colt Mustang Pocketlite, my Ruger LCR .38 SPL, and my 1911 Commander .45ACP which are my carry guns depending on my “wardrobe”. They’re expensive rounds but how much are YOU worth?


20 posted on 02/12/2020 7:59:20 PM PST by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps coming.)
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I'll admit 9mm and 45 ACP are my favorite handgun calibers. However, if 007 can get by with a Walther PPK in 32 ACP then I guess a 380 is ok... ;-)

We have a Ruger 380 LCP. I don't really have any gripes against the round, but the little LCP... I think I've resolved to maybe find a different single stack 380 with better ergos.

29 posted on 02/12/2020 8:46:20 PM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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Thank you. I own a number of self defense hand guns in 25ACP, 32 ACP, 380 ACP, 9mm Mak, 9mm Parabellum, .38 special, .357 Mag, .44 Rem Mag, 45 ACP, and .45 Long Colt.

Most of the time I carry a 380 ACP or 9mm. In special situations I will carry a .357 Mag or if in the deep woods a .44 Rem Mag.

I have no concerns carrying a .380 ACP with a spare magazine full of ammo. The .32 AVP and .380 ACP don't get the respect they deserve.

31 posted on 02/12/2020 9:51:06 PM PST by Robert357
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34 posted on 02/13/2020 3:47:39 AM PST by sauropod (If women are upset at TrumpÂ’s naughty words, who bought 80 million copies of 50 Shades of Grey?)
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Nota bene:

Before I wrote this, but after I collected the data, PoliceOne did a 3 part article of their own about the clear gel.

In the articles, I’d put reference lines up around the FBI 12” and 18” marks and expansion guidelines.

The article is convincing enough to me that I’ve put a caveat around assuming that these results are the same as lab-quality tests in the organic gel. The good news is I stand by the conclusions as the volume of data, compared to *itself*, supports “light expanding” rounds and 3”+ barrels as key factors.

Please just don’t say “well STB got 14” or Lucky Gunner got 13 so it meets FBI spec.” It might; but it’s not 1:1 for sure.


38 posted on 04/15/2020 4:38:03 PM PDT by No.6
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