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Suicide and National Identity in Australia
https://freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity.com/ ^ | 5th January 2020 | Ozguy1945

Posted on 02/04/2020 6:00:38 PM PST by Ozguy1945

In 1975, the government of conservative Prime Minister Malcom Fraser held a plebiscite to choose a national song for Australia.

Advance Australia Fair won in a field of four with 43%. The long standing national anthem, God Save The Queen came third with 19%.

Waltzing Matilda was the choice of 28% including me. Sadly, in this matter, I am a bit too much like Nancy Pelosi. In my heart, I still don’t accept the result.

Waltzing Matilda is the story of an itinerant man who gets caught by three mounted troopers after he stole a sheep. He commits suicide to evade them.

The song is still regarded as an unofficial national anthem and is played very frequently at sporting events.

What does this phenomenon look like from America?


TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; Music/Entertainment; Poetry
KEYWORDS: australia; homelessness; suicide; waltzingmatilda
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1 posted on 02/04/2020 6:00:38 PM PST by Ozguy1945
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To: Ozguy1945

Waltzing Matilda by the Seekers (my favorite version):

https://youtu.be/XZHsU-OT0DY


2 posted on 02/04/2020 6:04:41 PM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Ozguy1945

Have no idea what the heck “Advance Australia Fair” is. But everybody’s heard “Waltzing Matilda”. The Queen song is fine, but it should be reserved for the poofsters in the motherland.

Demand a revote, with the requirement that nobody gets to cast their vote unless they knock down a couple of pints before entering the poll booth. For crying out loud, if you’re going to have an Australian anthem, it ought at least be Australian.


3 posted on 02/04/2020 6:11:00 PM PST by Stosh
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To: Ozguy1945
Waltzing Matilda...love it...it IS Australia!

Judith Durham

4 posted on 02/04/2020 6:15:23 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Ozguy1945

I always thought it was “Waltzing Matilda” too.

60 years ago, I had an album by Burl Ives with it. He also told the story of the Swagman and what he and a billabong were.

I also think Scotland’s should be “Scotland The Brave” and England, “Jerusalem”.


5 posted on 02/04/2020 6:16:43 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: Ozguy1945
Of course as an American my opinion would mean absolutely nothing...but I have one nevertheless.I stumbled upon this youtube video a year or so ago and deeply admired the video images and fell in love with this version of Waltzing Matilda...by The Seekers.If I was an Aussie this would be my choice for "National Anthem".

Waltzing Matilda by The Seekers

6 posted on 02/04/2020 6:17:59 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: naturalman1975

Ping


7 posted on 02/04/2020 6:19:05 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: Ozguy1945

I recently stumbled upon Andre Rieu for the first time, on youtube. His performance of Waltzing Matilda moved me deeply. The reaction of the Australians in the audience...well, I really can’t find words, but it made me very sad for what we have lost in this country.

Or rather for what the left has stolen from us.

My impression, as a foreigner, is that Waltzing Matilda is the de facto Australian national anthem, whatever the bureaucrats may say.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=youtube+andre+rieu+waltzing+matilda&link_code=qs&sourceid=Mozilla-search&tag=mozilla-20


8 posted on 02/04/2020 6:20:49 PM PST by dsc (As for the foundations of the Catholic faith, this pontificate is an outrage to reason.)
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To: Ozguy1945

There is another one called “The Band Played Waltzing Matilda” which I have on a CD. About Gallipoli, and it is very good tho long.


9 posted on 02/04/2020 6:30:22 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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But did he explain what a "jumbuck" and a "billy" were? From the time I was a kid until very recently I thought Waltzing Matilda was just a song about a guy who took his wife/girlfriend dancing...and her name was Matilda.

But now understanding the story at least a bit...and having seen a bit of the Outback...I can now imagine what a challenge it would have been to conquer it 150 years ago.

10 posted on 02/04/2020 6:31:23 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: yarddog

Yup...heard it. “Sad” doesn’t even begin to describe it. WWI was a war that featured carnage that’s hard to imagine.


11 posted on 02/04/2020 6:33:13 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: Ozguy1945

Give me a home among the gum trees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxMPDp9M9TI


12 posted on 02/04/2020 6:34:06 PM PST by freefdny
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To: Gay State Conservative

Ives did explain what a jumbuck was, I think a lamb but not sure. Also that Waltzing Matilda was a Swagman (Hobo)carrying his bundle at the end of a stick.

Don’t recall what “Billy” meant.


13 posted on 02/04/2020 6:35:39 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: Ozguy1945

Waltzing Matilda is Australia but it’s not an anthem. I like AAF as the anthem. It may not be as well known internationally but I think most in Australia know it. As an Aussie living abroad for most of my life a handful of songs really tug at my heart. AAF is one and The Man from Snowy River is another. Clancy of the Overflow as well. WM doesn’t though. Sorry.


14 posted on 02/04/2020 6:37:18 PM PST by xp38
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To: yarddog

Yup,I learned what a “swagman” was. I think that jumbuck means “sheep” but it certainly could be more specific...perhaps a lamb.A “billy” is a tin pot in which you can make tea. And as a British “colony” I’ll bet that Aussies drank a lot of tea back then.


15 posted on 02/04/2020 6:40:34 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: dsc

Oops, wrong link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UFmwArST-I


16 posted on 02/04/2020 6:41:16 PM PST by dsc (As for the foundations of the Catholic faith, this pontificate is an outrage to reason.)
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To: yarddog

I only learned of “Jerusalem” from the Monty Python skit about the man who couldn’t stand to hear the word “mattress”.

Later, during Falklands in 1982 the BBC announced it was the favorite tune of British forces sent in to recapture the islands.


17 posted on 02/04/2020 6:43:41 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Gay State Conservative

During WWII my Father’s combat engineer battalion spent a week with British Sappers learning how to build Bailey Bridges.

Every day at 10 they would stop and make tea. The Americans would make coffee.


18 posted on 02/04/2020 6:50:12 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: Ozguy1945

Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport?


19 posted on 02/04/2020 7:02:56 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; Ozguy1945; Leaning Right; Stosh; Bonemaker; yarddog; Gay State Conservative; ...
As an Australian, my preference for a national anthem has long been God Bless Australia - it uses the same tune as Waltzing Matilda, which is iconically Australian, but has words more appropriate to a national anthem.

Listen to it here at YouTube

Here in this God given land of ours, Australia
This proud possession, our own piece of earth
That was built by our fathers, who pioneered our heritage,
Here in Australia, the land of our birth.

God bless Australia, Our land Australia,
Home of the Anzac, the strong and the free
It's our homeland, our own land,
To cherish for eternity,
God bless Australia, The land of the free.

Here in Australia, we treasure love and liberty,
Our way of life, all for one, one for all
We're a peace loving race, but should danger ever threaten us,
Let the world know we will answer the call


I'd have no problem with adding an appropriate verse to acknowledge indigenous Australians, or some slight editing otherwise, but this is what I'd go with. If it was my choice.

20 posted on 02/04/2020 7:12:11 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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