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A Different Take on the Bill of Rights
ArticleVBlog ^ | February 3rd 2020 | Rodney Dodsworth

Posted on 02/03/2020 2:15:28 AM PST by Jacquerie

Not that anyone would notice today, but ours is a government of defined powers. The prerogatives reside with We The People who compacted to delegate certain authority and no more. Big diff between the American and Brit system, at least on paper.

Imagine the 1st Amendment didn’t exist. In its absence would Congress or Scotus have the authority to establish a religion, or restrict the civil freedoms of religious worship, speech, press, assembly or petition? Without the 1st Amendment, could Scotus have inverted its intent and walled off religiosity from the public square? No.

This was the essence of the Federalist stance regarding a Bill of Rights (BOR) pursuant to the draft Constitution of September 1787. If the new government wasn’t authorized to mess around with religion, speech, press, etc. in the first place, why mention the prohibitions and suggest the government can do otherwise? Without a BOR, perhaps our much-ignored Declaration of Independence would have assumed center-stage importance. What if all the Scotus had were its stirring proclamations of self-evident truths, unalienable rights, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and consent of the governed?

Delegate James Wilson (PA) remarked that nobody thought of a BOR until George Mason (VA) brought it up late in the federal convention. Every state voted against incorporating a BOR. The government of the Constitution concerned itself with matters of a general nature, and delegates regarded the status and extent of natural, civil, and political rights as state matters.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: billofrights

1 posted on 02/03/2020 2:15:28 AM PST by Jacquerie
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To: Jacquerie

bump


2 posted on 02/03/2020 3:11:18 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: Jacquerie

Very nice deconstruction and synthesis of debate pro and con regarding the BOR.

Here’s a quote at the end:

“We the People are in a bad way. We’ve lost track of the proper relationship with our government and allow Scotus to define the breadth and depth of our rights. That is up to us, and not a few lawyers meeting in secret conclaves.”

I would add to this last comment that the 17th Amendment contributed substantially if not entirely to this lost relationship between the People and their federal government.


3 posted on 02/03/2020 4:23:57 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Jacquerie
Good article.

Some of the founders did rightly predict that scoundrels would aspire to public office. They understood human nature, and history has proven, before and since, that bad behavior gets worse when vested with power.

The anti-Trump Democrats and RINOs are prime examples of the "scoundrels" having reached the lowest level of pure unadulterated evil. They are fighting like crazy to avoid investigation and prosecution. Justice is coming.

4 posted on 02/03/2020 4:47:47 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: Jacquerie

Hamilton said it best when he stated that including a BoR would imply that the Feral Government would have otherwise had the power to restrict rights such as the 1st and 2nd amendments - even though such power was never delegated. He was exactly right and that is the core reason why so many today assume that the government has the power to restrict the right to bear arms / restrict speech etc ....

I find the argument about ex post facto laws to be spurious at best since the Feral Government IS empowered to pass laws in many areas and this restriction is imperative and included rightly in the body of the constitution.


5 posted on 02/03/2020 5:08:38 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Hostage

Ditto re: 17A.

FWIW, you’ll get dozens of hits searching “17th Amendment” at ArticleVBlog.


6 posted on 02/03/2020 7:58:27 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Hostage

and the 16th.


7 posted on 02/03/2020 8:00:01 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jacquerie
People forget that the Federalists lost the arguments about whether or not to have a 'bill of rights' added to the Constitution. Lots of information about the Federalist Papers online, but the Letters From a Federal Farmer, also known as the 'anti-federalist papers' are not often referenced. They were essentially the answers and arguments made in response to the Federalist Papers. Lots of good information there.
8 posted on 02/03/2020 8:05:21 AM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: zeugma

I have always contended that studying the “Federalist Papers” without also studying their opposite number was ridiculous.

Unfortunately, the passage of time has proven the anti-Federalists to have been correct....in spades.


9 posted on 02/03/2020 10:14:06 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Right about what?


10 posted on 02/03/2020 10:38:59 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

You and I may be the only two Hamilton non-haters at FR.


11 posted on 02/03/2020 10:40:27 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

The enemy trashed the defined powers limit long ago.

Without the BoR we would have no limits on government and no rights.


12 posted on 02/03/2020 12:38:32 PM PST by Farcesensitive (K is coming)
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To: Jacquerie

That the Constitution wasn’t strong enough to prevent such unconstitutional things as Social Security, Dept of Ed, War on Drugs, etc.


13 posted on 02/03/2020 4:50:37 PM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: slowhandluke

We are responsible.


14 posted on 02/04/2020 9:28:09 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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