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Breaking – General Flynn to withdraw guilty plea
Citizen Free Press ^ | Jan 14 2020 | Citizen Free Press posting

Posted on 01/14/2020 5:50:18 PM PST by Cold War Veteran - Submarines

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To: Alberta's Child

Some of your remarks might cause one to think you WANT Flynn to fail.


61 posted on 01/14/2020 9:24:46 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Here’s hoping when Sidney Powell gets Flynn off, Roger Stone hires her.


62 posted on 01/14/2020 9:31:50 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

This whole case is so baffling, fragments here, scraps there. Maybe someday someone can write a clear summary of what the heck Flynn was doing or not doing and explain it for the layman.

Until then, it’s on my shelf of Bizarre Inexplicable Puzzlements that I will not waste time on.


63 posted on 01/14/2020 9:51:59 PM PST by cookcounty (Susan Rice: G Gordon Liddy times 10.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Wonder why “duress’ wasn’t in the list of reasons - you know they threatened his whole family.


64 posted on 01/15/2020 3:52:53 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Exactly. It’s easy for people to invent fake news, isn’t it? Even Sidney Powell, who know EVERYTHING about him and is in no way secretive, has never, as far as I know, even alluded to the rumors.

Whatever happens, I hope everything works out for Flynn in the end. I want to see another “loss” chalked up in the FBI’s column.


65 posted on 01/15/2020 4:34:42 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength" - Corrie ten Boom)
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To: trebb
This approach was tried, as a defense, in Federal courts a few years back.

At the appeals level, one of the circuit courts said the ability to threaten legal action, in order to obtain a plea deal, was a legitimate power on the part of prosecutors.

66 posted on 01/15/2020 4:41:37 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Chewbarkah

The FBI threatened to go after his children... and they wanted him to plead guilty.


67 posted on 01/15/2020 6:24:04 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: cookcounty
Maybe someday someone can write a clear summary of what the heck Flynn was doing or not doing and explain it for the layman.

I am sure we will hear from Flynn when the case comes to a conclusion. My guess is he was out of money when he plead guilty and also wanted to keep his son away from potential FARA charges. I think one of the reasons the case went on for so long is that both Flynn and the SC wanted it too for different reasons. Information was slowly coming out about the Russian collusion hoax and he was hoping for information the would clear him. The SC wanted to keep the case open for as long as possible to give Trump the opportunity to obstruct justice.

68 posted on 01/15/2020 6:25:29 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Mr. K

You and I might see it that way, but Judge Sullivan already ruled against the discovery request. He seems intent on looking at the dry facts, not what might be behind them, applying the law to the detriment of Justice. Hope he surprises me, again.


69 posted on 01/15/2020 6:34:28 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Alberta's Child
Have you seen a single quote attributed to ANYONE confirming the rationale for Flynn's guilty plea?

Good point.

And to the issue at hand, I think General Flynn's chances at having his guilty plea successfully withdrawn are remote.

70 posted on 01/15/2020 6:45:07 AM PST by Fury
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To: old curmudgeon; Flaming Conservative
Flynn made enough bad moves over the course of his affiliation with Donald Trump for me to view him with a lot of skepticism. Here are three in particular that stand out to me:

1. His work as a foreign lobbyist for the Islamic government of Turkey, while serving as a national security advisor to the Trump campaign. This wasn't illegal, but the optics are awful for Trump. This would pretty much be the equivalent of having his campaign manager exposed as an illegal alien.

2. His conversation with the Russian ambassador Kislyak in December 2016 that led to the FBI's interview of him. The FBI didn't even need a FISA warrant in this case, since Kislyak was under routine surveillance as a foreign government official. Flynn surrendered whatever legal protections he had against unmasking by the Obama administration because he placed the call from his cell phone in a foreign country (the Dominican Republic). It's astonishing that a "national security expert" would be so reckless and irresponsible to do something like that.

3. His legal team's decision to cut their ties to Trump's lawyers in late 2017. This one may haunt Flynn forever, because it may have burned whatever bridges he might have needed to Trump in order to get a pardon down the road.

71 posted on 01/15/2020 6:58:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: Mr. K
The FBI threatened to go after his children... and they wanted him to plead guilty.

Please cite a source for this claim that is something more than a wildly speculative "report" from an internet news site that has no quotes from anyone affiliated with Flynn.

72 posted on 01/15/2020 7:03:59 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: EVO X
My guess is he was out of money when he plead guilty ...

This is where the explanations fall apart.

If Flynn was making decisions in 2017 for financial purposes, then the decisions he's been making in 2019 and 2020 have been extremely costly for him. Did he win a Powerball jackpot in the last 12 months?

73 posted on 01/15/2020 7:05:59 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: Alberta's Child

geez dude- it’s been talked abut for 2 years... do your own research and find it- you won’t believe it until you do


74 posted on 01/15/2020 7:20:53 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Did he win a Powerball jackpot in the last 12 months?

He has a defense fund account now. He must have enough in it to keep going..

75 posted on 01/15/2020 7:30:07 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Alberta's Child

Your first two points are speculation base on “feelings” similar to not liking him because of the way he parts his hair..

As for the third point, you must know, based on your statement that you work with or for lawyers, that many times lawyers will advise their clients when multiple clients are associated with each other, that each of them should have separate attorneys that will concentrate entirely on each individual’s needs.

In other words, in street language, don’t throw your associate under the bus.

Whether this was the reason Flynn’s lawyers and Trump’s decided to go their own ways is something only they know and you and I will never know.

In past years, I had exactly the same experience with my lawyers. I owned one company and represented another (as a distributor). My lawyer is a powerhouse in court. I wanted him to rep both of us. He insisted that the company I represented have their own law firm so each of us would be properly represented. He referred them to a very good attorney and the result was exactly what we wanted..

My guess is that Trump’s and Flynn’s lawyers foresaw the Pelosi clown show and realized that President Trump would be accused of inappropriate influence on Flynn’s behalf or coaching him on his testimony. Just a guess, but the way things have turned out probably a good guess.

And another clue: Trump has been very careful and for him very restrained in the Flynn matter. But he is still supportive of Flynn. Just today, he tweeted the web site where we can contribute to Flynn’s legal costs. I plan to do so.

By the way, excuse any bad typos, misspellings, etc. please. I have a serious eye problem and just returned from the retina specialists and reading this stuff is a killer.


76 posted on 01/15/2020 2:17:54 PM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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