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1 posted on 01/09/2020 3:46:21 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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Iran refuses to hand over black boxes:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3806435/posts?page=1


2 posted on 01/09/2020 3:48:39 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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Trump’s fault! Seriously, if this is ever proven to be true, the MSM and the left will pin this on Trump.


4 posted on 01/09/2020 3:51:25 AM PST by CatOwner
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What in the world did they hope to gain by this? They could not have done this in error since commercial aircraft all carry transponders as identification.


6 posted on 01/09/2020 3:52:44 AM PST by billyboy15
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Any VIP’s on that plane?


9 posted on 01/09/2020 3:55:49 AM PST by FES0844
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A investigation more likely will find it was a spark in the empty center fuel tank that caused the loss of the aircraft.


10 posted on 01/09/2020 4:01:28 AM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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This happened "a few hours" after they had launched missiles into Iraq. Figure they were on high alert for a US retaliation. In fact they were probably on alert as or before the missile attack occurred. So they were a little fatigued, maybe jumpy, maybe they just did a shift/crew change. Someone mis-configured the system. Maybe they fired at what they perceived as a threat. Maybe they put it in the wrong mode (eg it queried the target, didn't get back iranian military modes and codes, and fired).

A single radar guided missile with explosive warhead, eg the SA-15, could be expected to easily catch something like an airliner on climb out. It would guide to the biggest radar reflection- a wing or wing/fuselage area and proximity detonate as designed. This would mean the seeker would be relatively intact, not having impacted the target, and with the warhead shape charge configured to create an expanding annular ring of debris. This shrapnel would most likely perforate the wing and fuselage- puncturing fuel tanks, causing a fire, perhaps damaging an engine and/or control lines. While it is possible for something as big as a multi engine airliner to survive a single missile strike, it is also quite possible to lose the aircraft from a single hit. The commercial aircraft would lack self sealing fuel tanks, lumbering into the air it wasn't evading so the missile would be able to get very close at detonation causing maximum damage...

12 posted on 01/09/2020 4:25:40 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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I am shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!!!!!! /s


13 posted on 01/09/2020 4:28:02 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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Where was the plane headed?

Were Iranian government official’s families on it to escape the possible turmoil?


17 posted on 01/09/2020 4:53:12 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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No apology from the Mullahs?

Fatwa THEM. Fatwa them REAL good.

When we had frozen Iranian assets here in the USA before Obama released them, the victims of this downed Ukrainian flight would have had that money to claim damages from.

Now its bumpkiss.

Good thing Hunter Biden or John Kerry were not aboard!


23 posted on 01/09/2020 5:26:45 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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Obama gave Iran the cash $150 billion, to shoot down passenger aircraft.

The Democrats are evil.

Iran is seeking that one big U.S. military hit, but instead is murdering hundreds of commercial passengers. Maybe they should read the instructions on the box before firing.


24 posted on 01/09/2020 5:29:34 AM PST by TheNext (Universal Skeptic)
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Suspicious it happened within hours of their missile launch. Methinks perhaps a deliberate hit, hoping the crash would be lost in the news cycle vs all that was going on. A Ukrainian airline. Let’s see who was on the passenger manifest. Perhaps some witnesses.


28 posted on 01/09/2020 5:46:11 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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With all those missiles flying around the sky, what kind of pilot would take off? Someone like Ray Charles??

And how about that Control Tower...WOW.


32 posted on 01/09/2020 6:06:32 AM PST by Maris Crane
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New York Slimes, Washington Compost, UPI today are reporting the plane was turning back to the airport, but of course that can’t be verified without the black boxes.


40 posted on 01/09/2020 6:24:53 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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If the claim is true, and if looking for a reason, I suspect it would be found somewhere on the passenger list, among the Iranian passengers. The Mullah’s have never hesitated to use any means to go after any opponents of the regime. No territory in the world have been off limits, and no murderous means have been off limits. Yes, they have always been willing to kill innocents when killing someone they have targeted.


46 posted on 01/09/2020 7:14:07 AM PST by Wuli
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Anyone on that Ukraine Airlines plane linked to Burisma or Naftogaz?


52 posted on 01/09/2020 12:52:09 PM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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