Between Graham & Rudy my money is on Rudy especially since Graham just disparaged Rudy’s claims. Rudy has chapter, verse & they’re are signed and sealed in front of witnesses.
First Rudy Ukraine Video from One America News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn4weTY-2zE&t=
There are 3 parts, each about 30-40 min.
all 3 at this link
https://www.oann.com/oaninvestigates/
Thanks for the OANN link
https://www.oann.com/oaninvestigates/