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1 posted on 12/02/2019 1:12:45 AM PST by Jacquerie
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Research bump


2 posted on 12/02/2019 1:28:17 AM PST by Loud Mime ("Now, go and do your duty before darkness covers the earth." Michael Uhlmann (1939 - 2019))
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Later


3 posted on 12/02/2019 2:27:50 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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Later


4 posted on 12/02/2019 2:28:07 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security of the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.” America, circa 2019, operates on borrowed time.

TIMES UP!
We're into the "Praetorian Guard" phase of the decline and fall of America that Thomas Jefferson predicted 200 yrs ago.
When all government ...in little as in great things... shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power; it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1821

5 posted on 12/02/2019 2:39:00 AM PST by SanchoP (Yippy,the next generation search engine.)
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Federalism was severely damaged when we adopted this retarded amendment. The commies rejoiced with the overwhelming shift to centralized power. It is the single worst development to the original structure of our Republic and needs to be repealed. Shame on our educational systems for not teaching so.


7 posted on 12/02/2019 3:06:56 AM PST by Kudsman (Im trying to love the tolerant left. They make it very hard to do.)
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Washington DC was never intended to be that which it has become today. It is the greatest liability to the States


8 posted on 12/02/2019 3:14:10 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: Jacquerie

Bump


10 posted on 12/02/2019 3:51:33 AM PST by foreverfree
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The restoration of the Constitution will bring us back to our roots.


11 posted on 12/02/2019 4:59:15 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (A deep and terrible ignorance born of abject corruption is required to hate our president.)
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To: Jacquerie

Can we get rid of the 16th too, while we are at it?


12 posted on 12/02/2019 5:12:41 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Considering how corrupt many state legislatures are I don’t see how repealing the 17th Amendment would make much difference at this point. It might be better to focus on goals that are actually attainable and would make a difference to America, such as using the good economy to pay down the $23 trillion deficit.


15 posted on 12/02/2019 6:19:34 AM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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As I recall, one argument for the 17th was that some/many Senators were bought and paid for by special interests bribing key members of state legislatures and that ‘bribing’ a whole state’s electorate would be financially impossible. And of course it would be much more ‘democratic’.

I think that history has shown the first argument to be false—by dumping lots of money into an election Senators are still bought and paid for. What it did do, of course is change the very structure of American Federalism. Senators were originally in place to represent state governments, not the people. That’s why Senators get to vote on treaties. And it is why states are equally represented in the Senate—a feature that leftists still decry.


16 posted on 12/02/2019 6:22:33 AM PST by hanamizu
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I have believed from the moment I understood the constitution that the 17th amendment destroyed the Republic as envisioned by our founders. The states no longer had any direct voice in at the federal level, and senators elected by the public were fully beholden to their parties and would happily vote for things that were destructive to their constituents and states.

Unfunded mandates would not exist in a world where State Legislatures elected Senators, for example.

The House is for the people, the Senate is for the States.... The 17th Amendment completely removed the States from the table at the Federal Level.


17 posted on 12/02/2019 6:27:27 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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