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Why Oil Companies Aren't Evil
Oilprice.com ^ | 11-07-2019 | Robert

Posted on 11/07/2019 11:20:03 AM PST by bananaman22

''It’s not at all surprising that in 1977 Exxon management might reject a warning from one of its scientists that rising carbon dioxide emissions were going to pose a problem. It certainly wasn’t widely accepted at that time, and we have the benefit now of 40 years of hindsight. That’s why whenever someone says “Exxon knew”, I respond “Did they though?”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bigoil; climatechange; corporateamerica; energy; exxon; oil; politics; trumpenergy
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1 posted on 11/07/2019 11:20:03 AM PST by bananaman22
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...were going to pose a problem...

Only to their bottom line with the commies coming after them.

2 posted on 11/07/2019 11:21:46 AM PST by deadrock
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To: bananaman22

This is why progressives don’t go after China and India for their blatant polluting of the planet. There is no money in it for them.


3 posted on 11/07/2019 11:25:58 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: bananaman22

The entire notion that oil companies are “evil” is evil itself. I just flew 1,000 miles on a oil-powered jet aircraft. I got a ride home in an oil-powered automobile. My house is toasty warm due to natural gas. The lights and Internet are on because of reliable electricity generated by fossil fuels.

Fossil fuels and the technology to convert them to useful power at low cost is one of mankind’s greatest achievements and has done more to lift billions of people out of poverty, slavery, and servitude than anything else ever created (the creation of self-government by our Founders does come close).

The whole notion that the companies that produce and consume fossil fuels are “evil” is preposterous beyond comprehension. That an oil industry publication has to grovel and plead “we aren’t evil” is utterly ridiculous. Instead of groveling, just shut off the oil pipeline, natural gas pipeline, and electricity generation transmission lines down for one day. Then we can really hear people yammer about how “evil” those companies are.


4 posted on 11/07/2019 11:29:08 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Instead of groveling, just shut off the oil pipeline, natural gas pipeline, and electricity generation transmission lines down for one day. Then we can really hear people yammer about how “evil” those companies are.

In theory, sounds great. In reality, it would damage the economy, hurt Trump's chances for re-election, and put the DEMs in control of all branches of government. Then, they would either punish or just take over (for the sake of national security! /s) those energy companies they deem evil.

5 posted on 11/07/2019 11:33:00 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: bananaman22

For every action there is an equal an opposite reaction.


6 posted on 11/07/2019 11:38:11 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: bananaman22

It’s those darn evil dinosaurs!

They had to go getting all extinct and stuff and then turning into oil and stuff!

Total bummer!


7 posted on 11/07/2019 11:38:59 AM PST by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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To: bananaman22

Oil companies are only evil to dumb asses who think gasoline originates from just behind a nozzle at a gas station.


8 posted on 11/07/2019 11:46:15 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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[[That’s why whenever someone says “Exxon knew”, I respond “Did they though?”]]

Wrong response- the correct answer is “So what!” “CO2 doesn’t cause climate change- climates change first, then CO2 rises- then while there is high CO2 Climates cool again, and CO2 drops- Climate regulates CO2- not the other way around”

and “IF 400+ ppm is the ‘tipping point for sustainable life’ as falsely claimed by alarmists, then why did life flourish and thrive when levels were over 1000 ppm?”

and “Oceans are entirely responsible for the uptick in rising CO2- they have what’s known as ‘turnovers’ where the bottom waters are shifted upwards, carrying CO2 that has sunk there upwards- dumping massive amounts into atmosphere- That’s how we had levels over 1000 ppm in the past- and that’s how we’ve got those numbers now- man’s CO2 amounts to just 0.00136% of the atmosphere- nowhere near enough to be the cause of warming EVEN IF CO2 causes warming- which it doesn’t”


9 posted on 11/07/2019 11:52:38 AM PST by Bob434
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To: CatOwner

They also don’t go after foreign oil companies. Except BP

obama didn’t want to let a crisis go to waste.


10 posted on 11/07/2019 11:55:04 AM PST by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

you don’t think the way oil companies suck up to and enable the saudi regime is evil? you might conclude it is necessary to build a saudi-israeli coalition to contain Iran, but it would be a necessary evil.


11 posted on 11/07/2019 12:00:17 PM PST by socalgop
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12 posted on 11/07/2019 12:01:59 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: CatOwner

Yeah...such a thing would never happen. Besides, all those companies have a fiduciary responsibility to their owners (shareholders) and could not cease operations.

But, it’s fun to dream about such a thing hammering some common sense into the brain dead skulls full of mush.


13 posted on 11/07/2019 12:08:19 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: bananaman22
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Scientists trace atmospheric rise in CO2 during deglaciation to deep Pacific Ocean

CORVALLIS, Ore. – Long before humans started injecting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels like oil, gas, and coal, the level of atmospheric CO2rose significantly as the Earth came out of its last ice age. Many scientists have long suspected that the source of that carbon was from the deep sea.

But researchers haven’t been able to document just how the carbon made it out of the ocean and into the atmosphere. It has remained one of the most important mysteries of science.

A new study, published today in the journal Nature Geoscience, provides some of the most compelling evidence for how it happened – a “flushing” of the deep Pacific Ocean caused by the acceleration of water circulation patterns that begin around Antarctica.

The concern, researchers say, is that it could happen again, potentially magnifying and accelerating human-caused climate change.

“The Pacific Ocean is big and you can store a lot of stuff down there – it’s kind of like Grandma’s root cellar – stuff accumulates there and sometimes doesn’t get cleaned out,” said Alan Mix, an Oregon State University oceanographer and co-author on the study. “We’ve known that COin the atmosphere went up and down in the past, we know that it was part of big climate changes, and we thought it came out of the deep ocean.

“But it has not been clear how the carbon actually got out of the ocean to cause the CO2 rise.”

Lead author Jianghui Du, a doctoral student in oceanography at Oregon State, said there is a circulation pattern in the Pacific that begins with water around Antarctica sinking and moving northward at great depth a few miles below the surface. It continues all the way to Alaska, where it rises, turns back southward, and flows back to Antarctica where it mixes back up to the sea surface.

It takes a long time for the water’s round trip journey in the abyss – almost 1,000 years, Du said.  Along with the rest of the OSU team, Du found that flow slowed down during glacial maximums but sped up during deglaciation, as the Earth warmed. This faster flow flushed the carbon from the deep Pacific Ocean – “cleaning out Grandma’s root cellar” – and brought the CO2 to the surface near Antarctica. There it was released into the atmosphere.

“It happened roughly in two steps during the last deglaciation – an initial phase from 18,000 to 15,000 years ago, when CO2 rose by about 50 parts per million, and a second pulse later added another 30 parts per million,” Du said.

That total is just a bit less than the amount CO2 has risen since the industrial revolution. So the ocean can be a powerful source of carbon.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/13/study-co2-rise-after-last-ice-age-didnt-need-man-made-influences-just-the-deep-pacific-ocean/


14 posted on 11/07/2019 12:13:58 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Dick Bachert
17¢ in 1939 equals $3.14 in 2019 dollars. Today, national gasoline prices range from a low of $2.40 to $4.07 with a national average of $2.63 (AAA Gas Prices).

In real (constant dollar) terms, today's national average is 16% BELOW the 1939 price in your photograph!

15 posted on 11/07/2019 12:14:16 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Bob434

I don’t believe any of that new research nonsense about a 1,000 year circulation period in the Pacific and how the “flushing out” of “grandma’s root cellar” sped up during deglaciation. Do you know why I know it’s just nonsense?

Simple. Everybody KNOWS that the science is long settled and there’s no more need to additional research. We know all we need to know to fork over trillions of dollars of tribute and to usher in communism.


16 posted on 11/07/2019 12:21:37 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Communism: doing to the world what we did to the Aral Sea.


17 posted on 11/07/2019 12:41:45 PM PST by Rinnwald
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To: bananaman22

Somebody at Exxon had an idea- so it must be true! Even if 10 other people said he was nuts.


18 posted on 11/07/2019 12:46:16 PM PST by Ford4000
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

My figures for today’s inflated FRAUD (Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Denominator erroneously called “dollars”) also came from an official and assumed to be accurate source.
The bottom line is that since the creation of the Fed in 1913 and the removal of precious metal backing of the currency in 1965, we’re been screwed, blued and tatooed.


19 posted on 11/07/2019 1:25:52 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Rinnwald

Just “borrowed” that photo! Thanks.


20 posted on 11/07/2019 1:28:19 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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