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Ambassador Bill Taylor's Troubling Testimony
Powerline ^ | 10/23/2019 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 10/23/2019 7:25:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Aria

RE: If you’re funneling money to your son then it’s ok to leverage “foreign aid” but if you’re trying to get to the bottom of corruption then ...it’s corrupt to look for corruption.

The Democrats are going to dwell on — USING FOREIGN AID TO DIG DIRT ON A POLITICAL OPPONENT.

TO which my response is this — So, in order to escape accountability for corruption, all one has to do is run for President and what you did can be ignored?


21 posted on 10/23/2019 7:40:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Whatever their “findings”, shouldn’t be admissible as evidence. Should be thrown out with the trash along with Pelosi.


22 posted on 10/23/2019 7:40:54 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: SeekAndFind

why didn’t they impeach Obama for investigating trump when he was running for president?


23 posted on 10/23/2019 7:42:50 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

The Atlantic Council is directly funded by Big War, the US “defense” industry that gets wealth keeping us in wars with overpriced military equipment, much of which doesn’t work. Follow the money.


24 posted on 10/23/2019 7:44:06 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: SeekAndFind

“How serious an offense is it for a president to withhold aid for a few months because the recipient hasn’t agreed to investigate his political opponent? Pretty serious, in my view.”

IF it was true (it isnt) there isn’t the slightest thing unethical or illegal about it. Nearly every foreign aid package we offer comes with conditions. And the condition of investigating corruption, especially involving Americans, is very mainstream.

The hell with Powerline. The GOPe is coming after us. They better hope they don’t succeed or they might find a very very large group of angry 2nd amendment citizens in their future.


25 posted on 10/23/2019 7:46:24 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: SeekAndFind

The author Mirengoff touts Taylor’s West Point connection as if that means squat. Al Haig and Fred Buzhardt were classmates at West Point and both helped subvert Nixon. See Silent Coup by Len Colodny.


26 posted on 10/23/2019 7:47:08 PM PDT by Moorka
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To: SeekAndFind

The establishment is finally flipping powerline? That’s sad if true. Taylor was compromised. His texts were trying to leave a trail for Dems. He sounded like a Narc wearing a wire. “So, this is a quid prop quo, right?”


27 posted on 10/23/2019 7:49:24 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: aynrandfreak

EXCERPT:

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/10/23/republicans-say-smoking-gun-impeachment-testimony-is-actually-fourth-hand-hearsay/

Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-NY), who is on the House Foreign Affairs Committee and was present for Taylor’s interview, told Breitbart News on Wednesday that Taylor had no direct knowledge of any alleged quid pro quo.

“There’s only two references in Bill Taylor’s opening statement to Joe Biden. One of those references is just a reference to the July 25 call transcript. But the other reference is this reference on page 12 — it’s the only other reference to Joe Biden. This is fourth-hand information — this isn’t first-hand, second-hand, or third-hand,” he said.

“This is [National Security Council Senior Director for European and Russian Affairs] Tim Morrison telling Taylor that [United States Ambassador to the European Union Gordon] Sondland told Morrison that the president told Sondland that the president told [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky that he wanted an investigation into the Bidens,” Zeldin said.

“Really that’s the best that the Democrats can do to try to make their quid pro quo charge?” he said.


28 posted on 10/23/2019 7:51:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought quid pr quo was the essence of foreign relations.


29 posted on 10/23/2019 7:56:24 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“In 2015, Taylor was appointed executive vice president of the United States Institute of Peace after serving a year in the same role in an acting capacity”


The United States Institute of Peace is a publicly funded national institution chartered by the U.S. government to promote international peace through nonviolent conflict resolution.

But its chairman, Stephen Hadley, is a relentless hawk whose advocacy for greater military intervention often dovetails closely with the interests of Raytheon, a major defense contractor that pays him handsomely as a member of its board of directors.

Hadley, the former national security adviser to President George W. Bush, was an advocate for the 2003 invasion of Iraq and more recently appeared in the media to call for massive airstrikes in Syria. Over the last year, he has called for escalating the conflict in Ukraine.

In a speech at Poland’s Wroclaw Global Forum in June, Hadley argued in favor of arming the Ukrainian government in part because that would “raise the cost for what Russia is doing in Ukraine.” Specifically, he said, “even President Putin is sensitive to body bags — it sounds coarse to say, but it’s true — but body bags of Russian soldiers who have been killed.”

Hadley also called for European governments to broadly boost military spending, ideally doubling it. “You know, let’s show that Europe is going to have real commitment to military forces,” he said.

The call to flood Ukraine with weapons not only contrasts sharply with the stated mission of the Institute of Peace, but many scholars believe doing so would provoke more conflict.”

Just another neocon playground. So this Taylor Bush/Obama tool is lining up with the GOPe in trying to hurt Trump. F him.


30 posted on 10/23/2019 7:57:01 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: SeekAndFind

So we’re supposed to impeach a president based on what he said he believes in a text???


31 posted on 10/23/2019 8:02:01 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: DesertRhino

Hmm. What a coincidence!

BUT Haig was simply trying to give them serious, tough foreign-policy advice, Hormats says. Haig felt undermined by what he perceived to be a lot of posturing and backstairs maneuvering by the White House. Those loyal to Haig suggest that the White House staff did much to fuel speculation over Haig’s behavior.

Bill Taylor, who was with Haig at West Point when Haig was a regimental commander there, thinks Haig got ``an extremely bum rap’’ while in the Reagan administration, particularly over the ``I’m in control’’ incident. Haig’s swiftness in exerting leadership in a chaotic situation reflects his military training, says Dr. Taylor, now vice-president for political and military affairs at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

``He is a guy who accepts full responsibility. The man does not have an ego. He is used to being close to the seat of command and is ready to assume responsibility. He is not out to grab power - there is a difference. He will assume responsibility.’’

Taylor adds: ``He is an extremely organized and selfless person.’’

Taylor says Haig is a first-rate tactician and a consummate strategist, and that those skills were evident when Haig was supreme commander of NATO from 1974 to 1979.

Small world.

https://www.csmonitor.com/1988/0108/zhaig.html


32 posted on 10/23/2019 8:05:43 PM PDT by Moorka
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To: SeekAndFind

So we’re supposed to impeach a president based on what he said he believes in a text???


33 posted on 10/23/2019 8:06:14 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: Mr. K

Silent Coup II


34 posted on 10/23/2019 8:08:00 PM PDT by Moorka
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To: SeekAndFind

So if Trump committed a crime for withholding aid did Biden also commit a crime when he did it? We have video of him admitting that he did.


35 posted on 10/23/2019 8:08:11 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: DesertRhino

Powerline is hardly GOPe. Whether Paul is off target here is worth considering but to call the guy who along with Freeper Buckhead brought down the Rather hoax, who has been on Ilan Omar’s case since way before her election, and who has been a Trump supporter throuhgout his tenure to call him a GOPe is quite the stretch.


36 posted on 10/23/2019 8:08:37 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: SeekAndFind

YUP! But it only works it you’re a rat.

Sheesh...we need to take the offense rather than letting the rats continually sent the agenda and then we scramble.


37 posted on 10/23/2019 8:13:19 PM PDT by Aria
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To: SeekAndFind

That Biden HAPPENED to be running for President is not relevant


Sadly, this whole thing depends on the fact that this above is the ONLY relevant point. Trump was stupid to go after it like this. Especially himself.

If it had been anyone in the prior admin who IS NOT A CURRENT POLITICAL OPPONENT, there is nothing for them to play with. If he’d been asking about HILLARY or Obama it would not have led to this crap.


38 posted on 10/23/2019 8:18:28 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: xkaydet65

I judge them by today...not by Rathergate years ago. Today, October 23rd, 2019 they are trying to assist in the removal of Trump to accomplish their neocon goal.

They are trash.

If your wife is faithful 363 days a year, and only rides the milkman bareback for one day, she loses the claim of “faithful”. Some offenses are too serious.
Stabbing Trump in the back, at this moment is just such an offense. Their article today should have been about the treason at State undermining the President. It could have been a deep look at the Biden family’s corruption. It could have been about the CIA literally running spies AGAINST the President.

But they stab him in the back. They are now trash...


39 posted on 10/23/2019 8:23:57 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: lastchance

RE: I thought quid pro quo was the essence of foreign relations.

It is, but NOT if an individual or his family is PERSONALLY the benefit of the quid pro quo.

You are supposed to be serving the interest of your country, not yourself.


40 posted on 10/23/2019 8:28:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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