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The Russian collusion hoax has been replaced by the Ukraine bullying hoax
Flopping Aces ^ | 09-22-14 | DrJohn

Posted on 09/23/2019 8:47:48 AM PDT by Starman417

Adam Schiff has signaled that the Russian collusion narrative is officially dead. He didn't say that, of course, but that's what his actions mean. After bloviating threats of impeachment for Russian collusion- which never happened- Schiff has shifted course. Now the fate of the free world hangs on the conversation Trump had with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky in July.

A so-called "whistleblower" expressed grave concern for something he allegedly heard. Problem is, the "whistleblower" got his(?) leak from someone else. This person has no firsthand knowledge of the conversation.

“The whistleblower didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower’s concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration’s determination that the complaint didn’t fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.”
This "whistleblower" is reported to be an obama appointee who has since left the government.

The accusation being leveled at Trump is that he "bullied" Ukraine into investigating Joe Biden and his son, but the Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko denied that any pressure was exerted.

Schiff, naturally, has already tried and convicted Trump without the benefit of facts and the remedy for it is......wait for it.....

Impeachment

Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) said if President Donald Trump asked Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate 2020 presidential hopeful former Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden, impeachment might be the only remedy.

Schiff said, “I have been very reluctant to go down the path of impeachment for the reason that I think the founders contemplated in a country that has election every four years this would be an extraordinary remedy, a remedy of last resort and not first resort. But if the president is with holding military aid at the same time trying to browbeat a foreign leader into doing something illicit, that is providing dirt on his opponent during a presidential campaign, then that may be the only remedy that is only co-equal to the evil that that conduct represents.”

Now if that sounds familiar, it should. It is what Biden did to the Ukraine. Exactly what Biden did to the Ukraine. Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in loans to Ukraine if the prosecutor investigating the company on whose board Hunter Biden at wasn't fired.

So now the pattern repeats.

democrats concoct plots that distract from the misdeeds of their candidates.

In 2016 democrats, led by the obama DOJ and FBI, fabricated a story of Russian collusion against Donald Trump. It began with a phony dossier paid for by hillary clinton, the DNC and barack obama's campaign organization. It became the basis for four FISA warrants which are likely to be found illegally obtained.

Additionally, HIllary Clinton sought help from the Ukraine in besmirching Trump:

(Excerpt) Read more at Floppingaces.net....


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: clinton; russia; tds; trump; trumpukraine; ukraine

1 posted on 09/23/2019 8:47:48 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

I don’t trust Lichtenstein, let’s look into them next!


2 posted on 09/23/2019 8:50:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Starman417

Projection: It’s what the DemocRATs do best.


3 posted on 09/23/2019 8:51:29 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Starman417

Now that the Russia hoax is officially dead this Shiite is actually getting pretty funny!

( of course the whole plot there was to get trump to fire mullgead )

Oh noes! This is seeeeeeerious now !

Bwa ha ha ha ha


4 posted on 09/23/2019 8:52:21 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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The president’s conversation with a foreign leader does not seem to fall under this whistleblower definition.

More like an insider spying on the president——maybe bugging the president’s phone hoping to get dirt on the president.

Greggarrett.com

3. Article II of the Constitution gives the president sweeping power to conduct foreign affairs, negotiate with leaders of other nations, make demands or offer promises. The Constitution does not grant the power of review, approval or disapproval to spies or other unelected officials in the executive branch.

4. The ICWPA law defines the parameters of an “urgent concern” complaint as an abuse or violation of law “relating to the funding, administration, or operations of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinions concerning public policy matters.”


5 posted on 09/23/2019 8:53:06 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Starman417

The Russia hoax was started to cover the murder of Seth Rich for leaking the DNC data to Assange.
The Russians never hacked the DNC.

Biden did threaten to cut off Ukraine if they didn’t fire the prosecutor investigating his son’s shady business dealings, and bragged about it later, on tape.

The Ministry of Propaganda has become expert at manipulating information. They can make millions believe things that are patently untrue.


6 posted on 09/23/2019 8:57:20 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Liz

They are unable to enact legislation so they investigate. Vote the committee members out of office.


7 posted on 09/23/2019 8:58:11 AM PDT by Rapscallion (If they are not for Trump, they are against him. Fire them.)
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8 posted on 09/23/2019 9:01:00 AM PDT by red-dawg (Climate change caused the end of the Ice Age. Did man play a part in it?)
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To: Starman417

How many false narratives can the media and Dems manufacture?

There is no whistleblower’s complaint. It is all unverified gossip. Moreover, no one wants to raise the issue of Democrats doing dirty deals with Russia and Ukraine.

Pot calling the kettle black at its worst.


9 posted on 09/23/2019 9:01:18 AM PDT by PBRCat
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To: Starman417

The biggest loser in all of this is a Ukrainian president.
He is a president precisely because his predecessor tried his best to be a good Hillary’s puppet and had all his bets on her helping to undermine Trump campaign and it backfired big time.
New President is in awful situation in that sense right now if you understand what I mean.


10 posted on 09/23/2019 9:50:38 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Starman417

Now they’re calling for a release of the transcript of the call between the president and Ukraine. Of course he won’t which they will claim that it proves that he’s covering up his “crime”. The left is an enemy of the United States. I don’t suffer them, even the young idiots that are on board because of “racism” or whatever. All democrats are enemies of the United States.


11 posted on 09/23/2019 10:06:39 AM PDT by youngidiot (God save the President!)
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I’ve gone from sympathy to apathy as far as the Ukrainians are concerned. I had no idea until listening to AM radio this weekend how deep the Ukrainian involvement in this was.


12 posted on 09/23/2019 11:17:18 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Starman417

This “hoax” is the end of Biden.


13 posted on 09/23/2019 11:18:52 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Sam Gamgee

Ukrainian political technologists (yep, they have a position like that meaning highly paid people manipulating elections) were all around the Trump collusion hoax. Google Chalupa. Accusing the political rival in being a Russian puppet is a tested East European ‘electoral technology’. In Ukraine successful election mainly revolved around which side would be more effective in exposing another side as a ‘Russian-Jewish conspiracy for takeover’ .


14 posted on 09/23/2019 11:35:29 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Starman417

Here is the key difference:

President trump apparently urged the Ukrainian president to reopen the investigation of Hunter Biden. He didn’t pressure or threaten, but strongly suggested. Urged.

Joe Biden, when he was Vice President, threatened to cut off a chunk of US aid to Ukraine unless they dropped that investigation, and he has subsequently bragged about it.

Which one is a scandal?


15 posted on 09/23/2019 11:48:48 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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