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Coming for your AR-15? O’Rourke scrambles Dems’ gun message
KTSA-FM ^ | September 14, 2019 | The Associated Press

Posted on 09/14/2019 10:55:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Beto O’Rourke’s “hell yes” moment at the Democrats’ presidential debate is scrambling his party’s message on guns.

The Democrats have long contended their support of gun control laws does not mean they want to take away law-abiding citizens’ firearms. But on Friday, they struggled to square that message with their presidential contender’s full-throated call on national TV for confiscating assault rifles.

“Hell, yes, we’re going to take your AR-15, your AK-47, and we’re not going to allow it to be used against your fellow Americans anymore,” the former Texas congressman declared during Thursday night’s debate.

O’Rourke’s hometown of El Paso was the site of a mass shooting last month that killed 22 people, and he has put the issue of gun violence at the center of his campaign effort. On Friday, his campaign hawked T-shirts emblazoned with his debate vow.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; beto; bobblehead; texas
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1 posted on 09/14/2019 10:55:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He only said what they want to do...and that’s just for starters.


2 posted on 09/14/2019 10:57:49 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shine a little light, and the cockroaches scramble.


3 posted on 09/14/2019 11:03:32 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He didn’t ‘scramble’ anything; he accidentally told the truth, something which no democrats wants revealed.


4 posted on 09/14/2019 11:15:27 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

it wasn’t just the fact that he said out loud what most democrats are really thinking- but the wild cheers from the crowd reveal what the left truly want=- gun confiscation- Beto just laid it bare that evening


5 posted on 09/14/2019 11:16:12 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Coming for your AR-15? O’Rourke scrambles Dems’ gun message

Scrabmled??? Sounded to me like he clarified it.

6 posted on 09/14/2019 11:27:34 PM PDT by stevem
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To: stevem

BLOAT


7 posted on 09/14/2019 11:35:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: DouglasKC

So which does he intend to steal, AR-15’s or assault weapons?
They are not the same thing and I am sick of the MSM pretending they are.

AR-15 values range from about $400.00 to $2,500.00.
Genuine Assault Weapons are NFA regulated items and the AR-15 FA assault weapon versions cost from $14,000.00 to over $30,000.00.
Even the non AR-15 marked registered AR pattern assault weapons values start at around $10,000.00.

As to AK-47’s, another deliberate mis-statement, civilian semi-auto AKM’s, vs rare NFA registered AK-47’s at $14,000.00 minimum.

It’s time to correct these idiots EVERY time they get sloppy with the terminology.
It’s clearly deliberate, to confuse the unknowing, who would not have an opinion either way if they were not being lied to.
This reminds me of the frequent and documented instances of MSM showing semi-auto being fired but dubbing in a full-auto sound track!

And guess who owns the real deal “Assault Weapons”?
Very WEALTHY Americans, the ones who could and should be writing big donation checks ONLY to those who will defend our RKBA from wanna-be dictators like this jerk.

This not just an attack on our 2A, it infringes most of our BOR and beyond.

Even the dumbest Lie-beral should know the old adage about being careful what you wish for.
The only way they get our guns is to destroy the whole constitution, which is probably the true goal.


8 posted on 09/14/2019 11:45:12 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In District of Columbia v. Heller, Scalia mentioned in his majority opinion that firearms “in common use” could not legally be prohibited.

So let’s promote AR-15s and make them even more common. In spite of the information in the following, Democrats will say the figure only amounts to a small percentage of the total population.

National Shooting Sports Foundation
https://www.nssf.org/msr/

—————— Quoted Excerpts ——————

Understanding America’s Rifle

...If someone calls an AR-15-style rifle an “assault weapon,” then they’ve been duped by an agenda. The only real way to define what is an “assault weapon” is politically, as in how any given law chooses to define the term—this is why the states that have banned this category of semiautomatic firearms have done so with very different definitions.

...The term “modern sporting rifle” was coined to describe today’s very popular semiautomatic rifle designs, including the AR-15 and its offspring. These rifles are used by hunters, competitors, a lot of Americans seeking home-defense guns and by many others who simply enjoy going to the range.

Modern Sporting Rifle Facts

...They are commonly-owned, with more than 16 million modern sporting rifles owned by civilians by 2018.


9 posted on 09/15/2019 12:18:41 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Democrats have long contended their support of gun control laws does not mean they want to take away law-abiding citizens’ firearms.

BS. Well, BS in the guise of thinly veiled truth. Sure, they don't want to take away law abiding citizens' firearms. However, they have a plan to make it nearly impossible, or outright impossible for a law abiding citizen to own a firearm. It is classic leftist double-speak. "Sure, law abiding citizens can keep their firearms." Unsaid is that is only as long as the firearm meets ridiculous requirements - outlawing all but the most ineffectual rifles and shotguns - forget handguns. Also unsaid is that the requirements to obtain permission to be a "law abiding" firearm owner will be nearly, or actually, unworkable. Hence we'll all be criminals, all be outside the law, all fall outside their "law abiding citizen" definition and hence ... yes, they are coming for our guns.

10 posted on 09/15/2019 12:21:59 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: Ex gun maker.
Heller defined the “Arms” covered by the Second Amendment to include “‘anything that a man wears for his defense, or takes into his hands, or uses in wrath to strike another.’”

If Heller tells us anything, it is that firearms cannot be categorically prohibited just because they are dangerous.

Too: The 2ND Amendment doesn't give us 'Rights'!

The 2ND Amendment is a regulation on government 'infringement'.

In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court ruled that, "The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence.

The Second Amendments means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government."


Every so-called gun law is unconstitutional.
11 posted on 09/15/2019 12:27:16 AM PDT by justme4now
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To: Ex gun maker.

As a retired journalist (advertising), I am continually dumbfounded why the NRA uses the term ‘gun violence’. They surrendered another battlefield and played perfectly into the hands of the communists. Guns don’t commit violence—people do. And it’s all the result of America turning its back on Christian values IMHO.


12 posted on 09/15/2019 2:27:55 AM PDT by jimbug
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To: ShadowAce

Beto has spilled the beans. NICS checks & AR-15 sales to spike.


13 posted on 09/15/2019 3:39:30 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: DouglasKC
“This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than the enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...”

The US Marine’s Rifleman's Creed..for most of us, there is no expiration date.

Nor is there an expiration date re “...against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic...”

14 posted on 09/15/2019 4:54:20 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: DouglasKC

“This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than the enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...”

The US Marine’s Rifleman’s Creed..for most of us, there is no expiration date.

Nor is there an expiration date re “...against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic...”


15 posted on 09/15/2019 4:54:42 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Hell, yes, we’re going to take your AR-15...

Which one?

16 posted on 09/15/2019 4:59:39 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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17 posted on 09/15/2019 5:00:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Jim Noble

lolol


18 posted on 09/15/2019 5:29:20 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The rhetoric is reaching the boiling point. I feel like we’re being manipulated to react instead of take thoughtful, logical action to neutralize these rabid comments. The only way to win the game is NOT to play. Just ignore this man.


19 posted on 09/15/2019 5:34:40 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look at the Demonrats backpedaling furiously from Irish Bob O’Rourke. His only crime was telling the truth about Demonrat plans for gun owners. Except gang members— Demonrats don’t plan to take their guns. Just NRA types. You know, terrorists, as the San Fran Board of Supervisors voted to call us.


20 posted on 09/15/2019 5:50:37 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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