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Trump Backs Off Red Flag Gun Laws (for Now)
Intellectual Conservative ^ | Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

Posted on 08/19/2019 12:29:04 PM PDT by Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

President Trump came to terms with an important constitutional realization: Gun confiscation laws, commonly called Red Flag laws, won’t work to reduce gun violence. The President is now backing away from his earlier statements supporting more gun control at the federal level – for now, at least.

When asked how he’s handling expanded gun control, Trump responded with a suddenly pro-gun tone: "So, Congress is working on that. They have bipartisan committees working on background checks and various other things. And we'll see. I don't want people to forget that this is a mental health problem. I don't want them to forget that, because it is. It's a mental health problem. And as I say -- and I said the other night in New Hampshire; we had an incredible evening -- I said: It's the people that pull the trigger. It's not the gun that pulls the trigger."

The President previously called for implementing federal Red Flag laws that allow any individual – friend, family, or stranger – to report gun owners to the authorities for temporary gun confiscation. Under most states’ Red Flag laws, any gun owner can be reported by nearly anybody else with little qualification or evidence.

Red Flag Gun Laws Don’t Work

Most Red Flag laws also disregard the presumption of innocence, forcing gun owners who have been reported to give up their guns with no warrant, no due process, nor any day in court. States like California have already put these unconstitutional laws into practice with largely mixed results. When asked why such laws are so effective, San Diego City Attorney Maria Elliot remarked, “We don’t have to wait for a crime to be committed.”

That sounds an awful lot like a judicial official supporting a law that ignores the 4th Amendment – and this official is apparently bragging about it, no less. For all the fear-mongering and emotional campaigning, Republics and Democrats alike appear to avoid the data which says Red Flag laws simply don’t work. Research shows that these laws do not reduce or eliminate gun violence or mass shootings. So why bother passing them in the first place? Because anti-gunners and Democrats want to disarm the American people.

Democrats are Chipping Away at the Second Amendment

Even though these laws show no reduction in gun violence of any kind, Democrats and anti-gunners support them. These laws remove firearms from law-abiding individuals. Those who refuse or attempt to protect their rights are imprisoned or killed. It’s a win-win for anti-gun rhetoric. And laws like these are just one of the many ways Democrats are killing off access to the Second Amendment across the country. California now requires gun owners submit to a background check just to buy ammo. Chicago and New York City now charge individuals just to buy a gun. It can cost as much as $900 to buy a weapon in Chicago, and up to $140 in New York City. Washington’s I-1639 bill now restricts gun purchase to anyone over 21. Federally, Bill H. R. 7115 would ban gun-making kits and 80 lower receivers – receiver blanks used to legally build a gun at home.

Democrats in The Know Say New Gun Control Unlikely

Data doesn’t matter though, with gun control rallies being held across the country. Republicans and Democrats alike are puffing their chests at Trump’s latest stance on the issue. Sources in the White House and Congress say that if no legislation is passed by September, no new gun bills will be signed before the 2020 election. Democrats familiar with the conversations and sources close to the President are skeptical that any efforts will succeed.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; redflaglaws; secondamendment; wafflerinchief
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1 posted on 08/19/2019 12:29:04 PM PDT by Black_Rifle_Gunsmith
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

good if true. those emails and phone calls can pay off.


2 posted on 08/19/2019 12:33:59 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

Scumocrats, don’t want gun control. They want Marxist people control.


3 posted on 08/19/2019 12:34:23 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

[[ San Diego City Attorney Maria Elliot remarked, “We don’t have to wait for a crime to be committed.” ]]

Ah- the land of the free- where people are arrested for Possible ‘Thought Crimes” that they never even thought to do in the first place


4 posted on 08/19/2019 12:34:46 PM PDT by Bob434
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If Flimsey Grahamnmesty’s support for amnesty THREE times since 2006 was not enough to remove him from office, Red Flag laws won’t be.


5 posted on 08/19/2019 12:35:36 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith
When asked why such laws are so effective

Well how does this azzole know they're effective?

Crimes don't get committed, so he says, "Look what we did - we prevented crime"?

He can take this anywhere he pleases if people let him.

6 posted on 08/19/2019 12:41:06 PM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

Until next week when yet another crazy lefty decides to take one for the team.


7 posted on 08/19/2019 12:41:26 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

Good writing

Welcome


8 posted on 08/19/2019 12:41:54 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

POTUS has no say over what goes into the Legislation. He gets to say yes or no. Sign or veto that’s it.


9 posted on 08/19/2019 12:42:01 PM PDT by Trumpnado2016 (Welcome to Trump World.)
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

Trump discovered he was being setup by Lindsey Graham and Romney.


10 posted on 08/19/2019 12:43:06 PM PDT by Zathras
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Red Flag laws will have the effect of “Swatting” on a national scale. This is why the dims want it.

Remember this for the next time the dims have the White house and the house and senate.


11 posted on 08/19/2019 12:44:26 PM PDT by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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Trojan horse painted red. How clever.


12 posted on 08/19/2019 12:48:06 PM PDT by PGalt
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Trump was never going to go for the laws, he was just talking to let the heat die down.


13 posted on 08/19/2019 12:50:36 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

Good summary. Yep. Nothing will happen until the next public shooting and then...nothing will happen.

But the Pearl Clutchers will be here, insisting that President Trump is a ‘secret gun grabber’ and they’ll be off to the races once again, LOL!


14 posted on 08/19/2019 1:04:31 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (We come from the earth, we return to the earth, and in between we garden.~Alfred Austin)
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Trump’s success all along has been his deep knowledge of how to work America’s corrupt media.

I got worked up over his initial tweets of “red flag laws.” A friend told me to calm down. Trump superficially made the same noises as the left, because in the aftermath of an extremely difficult news and PR situation, there’s no way to Twitter-flame anybody, and it makes no sense to challenge the narrative - just go along, deflect it, and if anything remains after the leftist pols have had their TV time, deal with it then.


15 posted on 08/19/2019 1:10:23 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Lurkinanloomin

We get it. You do not like Lindsey Graham.


16 posted on 08/19/2019 1:10:37 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: Trumpnado2016

Yes. However, in case you haven’t noticed, his expressed opinions can influence legislators.


17 posted on 08/19/2019 1:11:48 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: Bob434

San Diego City Attorney Mara Elliot has authority over parking tickets and traffic offenses. She is not the District Attorney. She can STFU.


18 posted on 08/19/2019 1:14:54 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith
These laws remove firearms from law-abiding individuals. Those who refuse or attempt to protect their rights are imprisoned or killed.

While I agree with the former, there is no evidence to support the latter. At least, not in the U.S.

19 posted on 08/19/2019 1:24:00 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Elitist Liberals have no idea the hunger and strength of the beast they have uncaged.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

“Trump was never going to go for the laws, he was just talking to let the heat die down”

Exactly. He also knows that the dimoKKKRATS will over reach.


20 posted on 08/19/2019 1:51:32 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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