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The Message of Baltimore is the Lesson of a Century
Illinois Review ^ | August 2, 2019 A.D. | John F. Di Leo

Posted on 08/03/2019 11:17:19 AM PDT by jfd1776

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1 posted on 08/03/2019 11:17:19 AM PDT by jfd1776
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BTTT


2 posted on 08/03/2019 11:19:01 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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HOORAY jfd1776! Thanks. I’ve had very similar experiences in Detroit.


3 posted on 08/03/2019 11:25:34 AM PDT by PGalt
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Come to Los Angeles, Mr President!!!! We have mountains of rat infested garbage piled up in the Flower District, Toy District, Warehouse District, Hollywood and beyond to match the ‘Rat infested city and state government. Come to Los Angeles and call these bureaucrats out.

PS - Bring disposable shoe covers, Typhus and Bubonic Plague disinfectant and a dust mask to cover the smell of bum shit piled up in front of trendy brewpubs in the Arts District.

This is the preferred democrat lifestyle- to point out FACTS is now racist.

4 posted on 08/03/2019 11:46:38 AM PDT by atc23
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“What are the causes of these problems, what are the solutions? Which politicians are more concerned with listing the problems, and which ones are focused on trying to work toward solutions?”

Why, when I read these questions, I was 100% sure that the elephant in the room was not going to get mentioned?


5 posted on 08/03/2019 11:48:17 AM PDT by aquila48
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Free trade and offshoring killed heavy industry and most major cities like Baltimore lost their economic viability. All the other problems followed that original sin.


6 posted on 08/03/2019 11:51:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Re industrialize the USA and all the other social problems will slowly melt away. That will require protectionist import tariffs but the USA is too stupid to do that so thy keep blaming the victim of globalism.


7 posted on 08/03/2019 11:53:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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“Free trade and offshoring killed heavy industry and most major cities like Baltimore lost their economic viability.”

Baltimore had employment and poverty problems even in the 1970’s, when most stuff was still made in the USA. My mother’s house, built in 1979, used USA manufactured goods without exception.

Blight was carefully minimized then by government efforts.

I suspect the real estate bust is responsible for most of the current blight.

Twenty-first Century ‘gangster” culture is probably responsible for the level of violence.


8 posted on 08/03/2019 12:09:15 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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I found it startling when I recently saw where the democRAT governed State of Illinois has a debt burden of over $216.8 Billion; while the Republican governed next door neighbor Indiana carries a $1.78 Billion budget surplus.


9 posted on 08/03/2019 12:15:01 PM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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Reindustrialization will only add a few million jobs.

Industry is highly automated nowadays in the USA.

Perhaps Baltimore should aim to meet federal government needs in software system development, etc.

Building component manufacture would be a good choice too.

Health care, via the Johns Hopkins Hospital system, is probably Baltimore’s biggest private sector source of employment.


10 posted on 08/03/2019 12:16:05 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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"But then came the Wilson administration, and then FDR, and LBJ, and Clinton, and Obama."

Well, that statement is misleading...

Note that the graph does not include Obama's full term. And also note that Trump is on the path to continue increasing the debt, unless he does something significant about cutting costs in his second term. (The improvement in the economy is not near enough to reduce the debt.)

US Debt Accumulation by President (2011)

And yes, I've been for Trump since before he announced his candidacy. Just point out the facts.

11 posted on 08/03/2019 12:25:01 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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There is also the factor that Baltimore is a port city.

With containerization, port cities were hard hit employment-wise. The need for people to load and unload ships decreased by around 98%.


12 posted on 08/03/2019 12:46:49 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Bethlehem Steel at Sparrows Point?


13 posted on 08/03/2019 1:03:01 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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There is no escape from big city liberalism

They have the brain dead votes. Nothing will change that without serious disruption

Or getting through to enough democrats

The siren song of socialism will never end

What needs to be demonstrated to
children is that - happiness comes from sacrificing for others ; not expecting what others can do for you

No other person no amount of money no amount of things will ever make you happy in this world

Only to love ; and be loved - and to create , and make sacred, life on earth

It’s all in our hands


14 posted on 08/03/2019 1:03:18 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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Baltimore is not a “hellhole”.

It has significantly large outdated housing areas.

Pairs of narrow houses might be combined to form larger houses.

A neighbor of a vacant house might be allowed to buy the vacant house cheaply by paying some of the fines due on the vacant house and showing the ability to renovate the vacant house.

Baltimore’s large underutilzed population might do housing renovation work.

In Savannah, Georgia, many houses on a block get renovated at one time, changing a blighted block into an upscale block.


15 posted on 08/03/2019 1:04:18 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Brian, don’t be silly. All the statistics - poverty, crime, percentage of dangerous neighborhoods, etc. - confirm that Baltimore is a hellhole.

That’s not to say you’re not correct in the example you give - the idea of changing zoning and labor regs so that people can more easily renovate existing homes or tie them together. Sure.

But that would change only a very small percentage of the town... as long as employers and employees flee, there’s a limit to what you can do with the existing population.

And that’s why I focus on ending the welfare state, fast. As long as welfare works as it does, recipients read a post like yours, think about it for ten seconds, and say “nahh, it’s not worth it.”

Liberalism is the problem - driving employers and population out of the urban centers into the suburbs, driving manufacturing to foreign shores.


16 posted on 08/03/2019 1:16:46 PM PDT by jfd1776 (John F. Di Leo, Illinois Review Columnist)
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This graph doesn't tell the whole story either. Let's keep in mind that Congress has a lot to do with the debt, although the President can either sign the budget or send it back.

The 911 debt that Bush dealt with was being paid off until we elected a Democrat Congress. Of course once that happened, he allowed them to kick him around like a dead dog.

Reagan's debt paid for a peaceful end to the Cold War.

As for President Trump, this is one of my major disappointments with him. He clearly has not hesitatated calling out the Dems and the GOP on anything. I wish he call them out on the current overspending.

17 posted on 08/03/2019 1:26:25 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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I wish he call them out on the current overspending.


He did that with the first budget submitted. That one slashed federal agencies and came in with a surplus. Speaker Ryan took one look at it, shrugged, shit-canned it, and produced another bloat-fest.

The wall consumes what little political capital Trump has.


18 posted on 08/03/2019 1:36:31 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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Liberalism is the problem - driving employers and population out of the urban centers into the suburbs, driving manufacturing to foreign shores.

This sounds very much like what the Communists did in Russia and Eastern Europe.

You pretend to pay me and I pretend to work

All of which lead to high alcoholism and other related human deprivations

19 posted on 08/03/2019 2:07:18 PM PDT by DanZ
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LOL. I don’t think 100 graphs could tell the whole story.

I agree with you on every point.

I don’t see how any politician can get elected by saying we need to tighten our belts and pay off the debt.

So we’ll keep kicking the can down the road until some emergency forces us to fix it.


20 posted on 08/03/2019 2:50:01 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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