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I just posted this comment on a Census-question thread, but it seems relevant here:

If the government does not use its legitimate force to bring justice in the face of all this corruption - the people will likely be compelled to "use force" themselves. In other words, law and civil order will eventually break down. I hope Trump knows this. We don't want a civil war in this country - it's up to the GOVERNMENT, RIGHT NOW, to start acting responsibly and arrest/ jail some people, or it will be left to us - and things will spiral out of control, I fear......

Let's hope some serious Law Enforcement "actions" happen regarding abuse of Intelligence Agencies' power and abuse of immigration policies ("sanctuary" cities) in the next 12 months.

Things are getting very bad. I hope Trump and Barr know this.

it's up to the GOVERNMENT, RIGHT NOW, to start acting responsibly and arrest/ jail some people, or it will be left to us - and things will spiral out of control, I fear...

I look at it the opposite where things HAVE ALREADY spiraled out of control and a secession or insurrection would be a positive step.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. - Declaration

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956