[central_va]

it's up to the GOVERNMENT, RIGHT NOW, to start acting responsibly and arrest/ jail some people, or it will be left to us - and things will spiral out of control, I fear...

I look at it the opposite where things HAVE ALREADY spiraled out of control and a secession or insurrection would be a positive step.

[4Liberty]

I think the Left wants that - it would cause us to weaken internally, and a foreign entity (China? Russia?) would be that much more emboldened ,to move in... :(