Posted on 07/08/2019 11:23:53 PM PDT by grundle
In order for the women’s soccer team to be paid as much as the men’s team, at least one of these two things should have to happen:
1) The women’s games generate as much advertising revenue as the men’s games.
2) The women’s team plays 25 games against the men’s team, and the women’s team wins at least 40% of those games.
No no no NO!- women don’t want to earn it- they just demand it regardless of whether they are worth the same (for bringing in revenue) or not
It’s a topic that simply isn’t worth discussion. TV advertising knows the power of the men’s World Cup (worldwide), and the hundreds of millions of men who watch the games. You don’t even have ten-percent of that draw for the women’s games (at least not yet). Go ask FIFA what they were paid by the TV contract. Maybe it went over big in France, the UK, Germany and the US...but I doubt if anyone else paid anything substantial.
They figure that if the WNBA can get away with extorting money from the mens pro league, they can too.
That’ll never happen. The 2017 women’s team was beaten in an exhibition game by a bunch of 15 year old high school boys. Apparently, the only way for female athletes to beat male athletes is to recruit gender-confused men and pretend they’re women.
Consider this:
These women soccer players will receive money multiple times what an ICU nurse earns in a year while working hard and saving lives
and with nurses working a heck of a lot more hours too, likely-
Yep - it has nothing to do with male or female. It is the revenues from the TV advertising, and I suppose merchendise. I bet jersey sales from some male soccer star surpasses all of the women’s jerseys.
I see where the top selling team men’s jersey sold 2.85 million jerseys (Manchester). I couldn’t find any data on womens’. Oh - I did find the following though with regard to World Cup revenues:
“The men’s World Cup currently generates more money, by far. For context, FIFA earned upwards of $6 billion from the 2018 men’s World Cup. Meanwhile, the women’s 2019 World Cup is estimated to earn FIFA about $131 million.”
[[FIFA earned upwards of $6 billion from the 2018 men’s World Cup. Meanwhile, the women’s 2019 World Cup is estimated to earn FIFA about $131 million.”]]
well $131 mill is almost $6 bill- no wonder women soccer players feel entitled to just as much pay lol
I don’t want to pay one cent for the men’s team why would I want to spend on the women’s???
I don't have enough information to make an argument, but there is an obvious question. If the money is driven primarily by television and advertising, how does a 1-3 ratio in viewership get translated into a 1-45 ratio in total revenues and a 1-13 ratio in payouts to teams (which will include player bonuses)? The ratios seem out of whack. There may be a good explanation but FIFA should put it forward.
I suspect you are right that part of the issue is likely the indifference of macho, soccer mad Latin nations to the women's game. The South Americans will cheer if their women are doing well, but that doesn't mean that they will invest a devalued peso in player development, or that their corporate advertisers will ante up. That may get us partway to an answer... but still, if total viewship for the women's game was a third of that for the men's, one would expect advertisers to respond. There is something else at work here. I don't know what it is.
The pay equity fight being waged by the USWNT ladies is a related but still distinct issue. National Team players, both men and women, are paid by U.S. Soccer. They are essentially employees. The women win championships. The men struggle to beat Caribbean beach resort countries. The women's team often ( not always, but often) beats the men in paid attendance and tv viewership. U.S. Soccer is paying its chronic disappointments more than its wildly popular champions. I don't know what the right formula is, but there's an issue there.
Yup
Maybe the viewership numbers show some trend, that would convince FIFA of asking for more TV money, for the next series (2023). Note one obvious thing...they haven’t decided on the location of the Cup, and this might play into this as well.
Last I heard: Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Australia, Japan, South & North Korea combined, Columbia, South Africa, and New Zealand were still being considered. It won’t surprise me if South/North Korea get the nod, and people watch solely to get a glimpse of Kim at the games. Who knows....maybe even Trump would show up as a guest of Kim.
If I were FIFA...I’d put more emphasis on South American female players...getting more regular season games on TV there, and hope to build the earnings potential for the 2023 women’s games to the $400 million level.
I’ll add this...having watched four of the women’s games....it was nice to watch the game played without all the fake injury business, or hostility business. It was good clean soccer for the most part. But I’ll add this...they still lack a female ‘Pele’ to move the sport up to the next level, and the politicization of the US squad leaves a bitter view of the team.
Heard on the radio about the US winning the world cup, thought we weren’t even in it, then they cleared it up.
Seriously, if there’s no real audience for it, the pay shouldn’t match.
Heard on the radio about the US winning the world cup, thought we weren’t even in it, then they cleared it up.
Seriously, if there’s no real audience for it, the pay shouldn’t match.
Not gonna happen. A traveling team for 14 year old boys beat them 5 to 2.
The payments come from World Cup revenue, and are paid out as percentages based on record.
The Men’s World Cup grossed SIX BILLION DOLLARS.
The Woman’s World Cup grossed $131 Million.
So, although the US Men’s team only got a 7% share, their pie was 45X the size of the pie that the US Women’s team got 20% of.
It would still be more than their azz is worth...
Pay them the same as a movie star is paid.
A base + % of revenue...
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