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To Hell With the Naysayers—Hawley Is Right About Big Tech
American Greatness ^ | June 23rd, 2019 | Ned Ryun

Posted on 06/25/2019 1:07:05 PM PDT by Mount Athos

David French and his fellow peacetime conservatives are at it again, wringing their hands and gnashing their teeth as U.S. Senator Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) takes a run at curtailing the immense power of Big Tech.

As French channels Neville Chamberlain, the fact is that unless the tech companies are forcefully confronted, now, in the immediate, our self-governing republic will be over in less than a generation and we will be ruled by a tech oligarchy.

French and his types sputter that this is outrageous, that government shouldn’t be involved in curtailing the harmful behavior of private companies. First, we would do well to remember that roughly 20 years ago, Washington, D.C. created this problem by carving out the Section 230 exemption for neutral platforms online. Only a fool would think that the tech companies are neutral platforms today. They have, by their own distinct decisions, become publishers and telecommunications companies: if you are making publishing decisions, if you are deploying broadband, if you are creating and streaming live content, you are a publisher or a telecommunications company, and sometimes both.

As these companies have changed of their own volition, Washington, D.C. has continued to live under the happy fiction that they are still nothing more than neutral platforms. What do policymakers not understand? Why are they so blind? Perhaps re-election campaign money, perhaps organizations like National Review being bought off by tech company donations—who can really say? There are all sorts of reasons why we’re in defiance of common sense, but it doesn’t remove the fact that we are.

Ask yourselves why these companies get to play by one set of rules while publishers and telecommunications companies are forced to play by others? They are in fact the same, though now the tech companies dwarf many of their fellow publishers and telecommunications companies yet still get to play by rules that favor them. This is in defiance of free-market principles: government isn’t supposed to pick winners and losers. It is supposed to create a fair playing field for everyone to compete according to the same rules and regulations so that the consumer benefits. Instead, we see it creating rigged games that allow monopolies to develop.

But this is also about what the internet actually is and who gets to decide what speech or content resides on the internet. Would Google, Facebook, and Amazon exist if there were no internet? Of course not—and I hesitate even to broach the question because it’s an absurd one. They didn’t create the internet; they are in effect, squatters having built on a foundation they did not build and do not own.

In many ways, you could argue no one really owns the internet. It is a public square, a public arena, much like the Agora and Forum of ancient times, only in digital form. So why do squatters on property not their own get to dictate anything on any level on that property? These companies were given a great deal of freedom to grow, to innovate products, and—while the Justice Department’s antitrust division pulled a Rip Van Winkle—become monopolies. To put it mildly, mistakes were made. Those mistakes need to be corrected.

If we do not correct our mistakes, our great rights of speech and assembly, offline and online, are in danger. Someone is going to be the final defender of our natural rights as codified in the Constitution. Do we want un-elected global monopolistic corporations—entities that may or may not consider themselves American companies, ruling you by algorithms? Do we want them limiting the flow of information in the online public arena, manipulating it to benefit themselves and their view of the world? Or do we want duly elected leaders of a constitutional republic defending our rights?

In a constitutional republic, all power flows from the people to their various elected officials, not to corporations or private companies. And when monopolies develop, in order to reset to a free-market dynamic, monopolies must be broken up so that competition can benefit the consumer once more.

Despite the naysayers, Hawley is on the right path. May more Republicans and Democrats join him in this effort because this is about the future of our republic and ensuring that we will have our freedom and natural rights a generation from now.

These are dangerous times—we are far more on a razor’s edge than most people think because of where these tech companies are going, not only with the control of the flow of information but also with their work in general artificial intelligence and automation. We should recognize them for the dangers that they’ve become and fight for our rights. I want a constitutional republic with my natural rights guaranteed, not only for myself and my children but even for dangerously naïve people like French. Even he deserves always to have every right to express his foolish ideas detached from reality.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: facebook; google; youtube
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To: amnestynone
We are already taxed on our profits.

The various government taxes I pay are more then my take home. There is something wrong with that.

If you want to take back the country you can start by allowing people to keep more of what they make.

21 posted on 06/26/2019 8:34:48 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: YogicCowboy
CDA/230 regulation specifically, definitely apply.

Section 230 explicitly protects their right to block content they consider objectionable (see added highlighting):

47 U.S.C. § 230 (c)

(1)  Treatment of publisher or speaker

No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.

(2)  Civil liability

No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of--

(A)  any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected

22 posted on 06/26/2019 9:30:06 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

+++++Then you are obviously one of the elites and you are probably using cheap foreign labor and maybe even own a part of the main stream media that smears the rest of us.


23 posted on 06/26/2019 10:54:20 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: NobleFree
“It's not “defending” corporations to say they have property rights - it's fundamental conservatism.”

We need to worry more about our rights. It used to be that corporatists were conservatives but that is no longer true. They are only conservative when it fits their bottom line. Look at the corporate media and lets worry about our rights. corporatists changed and conservative need to change too or we will be destroyed.

24 posted on 06/26/2019 10:57:48 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone
It's not “defending” corporations to say they have property rights - it's fundamental conservatism.

We need to worry more about our rights.

If I violate the rights of others I make my own rights less secure. Rights for only some, are no rights at all.

25 posted on 06/26/2019 11:02:11 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Section 230 explicitly protects their right to block content they consider objectionable (see added highlighting):

I don't understand what people think eliminating 230 protection for the techs will buy them.

Do they think that FB will no longer be able to curate what gets posted there?

Publishers typically are much more restrictive in what speech they allow on their platforms than the techs are.

If you force them to act as publishers you'll get much narrower range of opinion like you have today from The Nation or Breitbart.

What people really want is to use someone else's platform to make money for themselves without having to respect the owner's property rights.

26 posted on 06/26/2019 11:04:03 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: NobleFree
"t's not “defending” corporations to say they have property rights - it's fundamental conservatism. We need to worry more about our rights. If I violate the rights of others I make my own rights less secure. Rights for only some, are no rights at all." These people can take care of their own rights and always have and their own interests it is our rights that are under fire. It is we who need to have our rights protected. Got that! If they are going to be in power and spend all of the money than why on earth shouldn't they pay heavier taxes. If they are gong to oopen the flood gates for chap labor immigrants then why should they pay reparations to us. If they are going to smear us in their corporate media than why on earth are we defending them!
27 posted on 06/26/2019 2:17:26 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone
If I violate the rights of others I make my own rights less secure. Rights for only some, are no rights at all.

These people can take care of their own rights

Not if we (going against conservative principle) mobilize the power of government against them.

28 posted on 06/26/2019 2:27:42 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
“If I violate the rights of others I make my own rights less secure. Rights for only some, are no rights at all.”

So then why is it that the more they violate our rights the more secure and the more liberal they become? Why are we violating anybodies rights by making them pay the taxes to cover the money they spend. By making them pay the damages to the rest of us because of the open borders they create? They undermine our rights all of the time with their lying lib media and their attempts to shut down populist conservative voices. We need to stop defending these people and realize that we are the ones being ripped off and cheated and ground into the dirt.

29 posted on 06/26/2019 5:53:15 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone
Why are we violating anybodies rights by making them pay the taxes

Who said making then pay taxes violated their rights?

to cover the money they spend.

What money other than theirs do they spend?

By making them pay the damages to the rest of us because of the open borders they create?

Government creates open borders; rather than demanding that government control how social media companies use their own servers, we should demand that government secure the borders. If the latter can't work, neither can the former.

They undermine our rights all of the time with their lying lib media

Lies don't violate our rights; let's not imitate the left in fabricating fake "rights" e.g. the "right" to a college education.

and their attempts to shut down populist conservative voices.

There are many populist conservative voices on the internet and other media.

30 posted on 06/27/2019 8:26:52 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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