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Why Are We Still Debating the 'Merits' of Socialism?
Reason Magazine ^ | March 8, 2019 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 03/09/2019 3:56:41 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I say a Leftist column recently where they discussed healthcare. The writer mocked the idea of private insurance actually doing a better job of health insurance than a single payer plan. "Private health insurance? We tried that once. It didn't work. It's time to move on."

Really?

Socialism? We've tried that dozens of times. It never works. You seriously think we need to try it again???

21 posted on 03/09/2019 4:34:40 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The only thing good I can think of about socialism is that it will bring an end to America’s obesity epidemic.


22 posted on 03/09/2019 4:36:01 PM PST by Drew68 (No, as a matter of fact, I didn't read the article.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Why Are We Still Debating the 'Merits' of Socialism?

Because of an incurable, deeply wired flaw in human brains that dictates that heaven is achievable on earth.

23 posted on 03/09/2019 4:38:59 PM PST by bkopto
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To: alloysteel

Its ironic that every single time socialism is set up, it always dails because everytime the failure is blamed on the wrong people running it.

Also ironic that these same wrong people running failed systems adorn tshirts, romaticized movies, and ornaments of the so called socialist lovers who want socialism but say it fails because of these very same wrong people.

Castro got it wrong, but i still love him and have a tshirt of his with Che’s.

you know its a lie. because they dont reject the people they claim messed up their attempt at socialism. they still worship them.


24 posted on 03/09/2019 4:51:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Socialism is just another form of oligarchy.


25 posted on 03/09/2019 4:51:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Still Thinking

There’s still time.


26 posted on 03/09/2019 5:41:21 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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27 posted on 03/09/2019 5:47:25 PM PST by Fiddlstix (blockquote)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Maybe Venezuelans didn't do it right. Nor did the Russians, or anybody else. Or maybe socialism is a fundamentally flawed idea that always leads to misery by design. We shouldn't need this discussion in 2019, given mounds of evidence and victims, but here we are again.

Why Are We Still Debating the 'Merits' of Socialism?

We are still debating the ‘merits' of socialism for the simple reason that journalists are cynical about society. No other conclusion is possible when journalists, who know that “if it bleeds it leads” and therefore journalism is negative towards society, claim to be objective. “Negativity is objectivity” only to a cynic.

But cynicism is not simply “extreme skepticism.” Skepticism is doubt, and cynicism is best understood as the absence of doubt. For it is essentially impossible to be cynical about everything. If you are cynical about “A,” you are naturally inclined by default to naiveté about the opposite of “A.”

Journalists are cynical about society and, perforce, journalists are naive about its opposite - government (see Common Sense).

Monopolistic journalism has been able to snow the public with its claims of “journalistic objectivity.” And monopolistic journalism will continue to propagandize for the “Democrat” socialist party until it is sued under antitrust law and libel law, and brought to (relative) heel.


28 posted on 03/09/2019 5:57:30 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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29 posted on 03/09/2019 6:09:55 PM PST by HotHunt (Reagan was good but TRUMP IS GREAT!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Socialism is just another form of oligarchy.”

Most definitely.

I’ve come to the belief that there is no way we will preserve what we grew up thinking of as America without physically fighting for it. It’s tragic.

As an aside, how ironic that we push for a firewall between religion and government, but we allow collusion between academia and government - which is much more pernicious and dangerous.


30 posted on 03/09/2019 6:18:17 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Great article! Forced-Sharing-Doesn’t-Work BUMP


31 posted on 03/09/2019 6:25:31 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't waiting. Do it today.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Why are we still debating the second amendment?


32 posted on 03/09/2019 6:37:30 PM PST by fruser1
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33 posted on 03/09/2019 6:41:39 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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To: fruser1

Exactly! Why are we debating ANYTHING in our Constitution? Live here, in America, as a Free Person - or go start your own Commie Hippie Commune elsewhere.

Plenty of other Commie countries will GLADLY take you in!


34 posted on 03/09/2019 6:48:27 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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To: CommieCutter
I don’t know why we debate it at all as it’s unconstitutional. We are guaranteed a Republican form of Government.

A republican form of government is not the same as a capitalist economy. You can vote for a government take over of industry. Now the tricky part is that real socialism can never allow a vote to return to capitalism.

35 posted on 03/09/2019 8:23:24 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.- Sir Winston Churchill


36 posted on 03/09/2019 9:07:09 PM PST by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: KarlInOhio
A republican form of government is not the same as a capitalist economy. You can vote for a government take over of industry. Now the tricky part is that real socialism can never allow a vote to return to capitalism.

Bingo!

Regards,

37 posted on 03/10/2019 12:02:21 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Because 80% of humans are sheep and a large majority of them were taught in the marxist schools that “Ignorance is strength”. So they learned to not think critically but instead to just follow the crowd.

JoMa


38 posted on 03/10/2019 3:28:36 AM PDT by joma89
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

All budding and committed socialist know that all socialist revolutions follow the same pattern in the early days before the true leader emerges:

Those who fought against the tyranny of the previous government are not trust worthy and in the new socialist paradise only the trusted can exist. Since they betrayed their former government, they cannot be trusted in this one and so must be Purged ...

Generally speaking, the Purge will encompass some show trials of the more prominent, followed by a reeducation course, and then, disappeared ... permanently.

All budding and committed socialist can be proud that the revolution will live on after they meet their untimely pain-filled ends ...


39 posted on 03/10/2019 3:47:21 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: KarlInOhio

True.

But a Republican Government is not the government Socialists advocate. Social Democracy is what they push. This is why they trash the EC. And Socialism by definition is political as well as economical.


40 posted on 03/10/2019 8:57:33 AM PDT by CommieCutter ("Trump is god emperor and he will win." -- some hacker)
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