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To: DiogenesLamp
Your belief is a consequence of propaganda, and it isn't correct.

Your definition of 'propaganda' being facts that you do not accept or which show your opinions to be wrong?

The facts clearly demonstrate that Lincoln was going to protect slavery. The South did not have to defend slavery at all. It was legal.

Yet the facts clearly show that the South rebelled to protect their institution of slavery from the Republicans in government.

... and so therefore the claim that the South "rebelled to defend slavery" is not only idiocy, it's a clearly demonstrable lie.

So then I guess the writings of the time clearly show that the Southern leaders were idiots? And liars?

You hate to hear this, but money was at the root of this whole thing. Money that New York and Washington had controlled for years, and it was that loss of control that triggered the war against the South.

So you keep saying. And I never cease to find your claims amusing.

77 posted on 02/26/2019 7:25:40 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Your definition of 'propaganda' being facts that you do not accept or which show your opinions to be wrong?

When you send five warships, and three tug boats, and call it a "supply" mission, you are a liar.

You keep repeating the blatant propaganda that a fleet of warships constitutes a "supply" mission. Then you keep repeating the propaganda that a peaceful convention for a state to leave the Union which it voluntarily joined, is "rebellion."

Just lies all the way around with your side, isn't it? Here's another one.

Yet the facts clearly show that the South rebelled to protect their institution of slavery from the Republicans in government.

No, the facts show no such thing at all. Your propaganda keeps repeating this claim, and your propaganda keeps ignoring the fact that there was absolutely no threat to the institution of slavery, so you are both lying about the term "rebellion" and lying about why the South left, and you are also lying about claiming the South's reasons had anything to do with the war.

As i've told you many times, the South's reasons for seceding are *IRRELEVANT* to why Abraham Lincoln deliberately launched a war to stop them.

The Declaration of Independence does not specify any threshold which must be met for a state to exercise the right of independence beyond the desire of the people to want independence.

"Consent of the Governed", is the sole requirement, and when a government no longer has the "consent of the governed", it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it" for any D@mned reason that suits their fancy.

So once again, I reject your effort to *FOCUS* the cause of the war on the people who just wanted to leave. The cause of the war must be focused on the people who went into other people's land and killed their citizens.

The invading force was responsible for the war, and they started it by sending warships into another peoples harbor with orders to attack.

80 posted on 02/26/2019 7:50:03 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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