Skip to comments.California Constituent: Sen. Kamala Harris Not a Natural Born Citizen
Posted on 01/30/2019 4:35:47 PM PST by RichardMoore
Article II,section 1,clause 5, mandates that the president be a NATURAL-born citizen, which you clearly are not. At the time of your birth BOTH of your parents were citizens of foreign countries...
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My table has a mind of its own
the president be a NATURAL-born citizen, which you clearly are not
that ship sailed when 0 was elected
and when courts decided being born on American soil was automatic citizenship
She apparently moved to Canada with her mother when her parents divorced
No one cares. No legal controlling authority ... :-)
This issue is DOA
Some Freepers here just can’t pass up a good conspiracy theory, regardless of how many times it falls flat: Obama, McCain, Cruz....now Harris.
I’m staring to think the FR logo should be in the dictionary next the definition of insanity as “doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.”
The simple fact of the matter is she was born in the U.S., in U.S. soil and is, as the law stands and stood at the time, a “natural born citizen.” Tinfoil Freepers can trot out any and all tortured legal arguments they want, but it won’t change that.
So...instead of discussing her abhorrent views, her socialist platform, her easy willingness to abuse the power of office...all things that are truly disqualifying, we’re going to chase our tails and let “conservatives” get tagged as “racist.”
It’s really frustrating.
There's going to be "Kampala Harris is not eligible!" vanity threads every week from now until her campaign collapses (for reasons that have nothing to do with her eligibility).
Some of the vanity posters will be super serious and use all caps, and maybe even bold letters to tell us that they mean business. "KAMPALA HARRIS IS NOT ELIGIBLE!!!"
Meanwhile, Kamala Harris's campaign meanders on, nobody in any position of authority raising the issue.
The children of foreign nationals born with more than one nationality are PRECISELY who the founders were excluding.
One is only NATURALLY a citizen when one CANNOT be anything else.
They intended the President to be solely an American.
You would lose that bet.
Exactly. Which is why I no longer bother to argue the point with those who doggedly pursue this line of legal “reasoning.” It is, as I stated, a contest of seeing who can piss furthest into the wind.
1. Constitutional Convention Born a Citizen v Natural Born Citizen”:
When developing a new U.S. Constitution for the United States of America, Alexander Hamilton submitted a suggested draft on June 18, 1787. In addition, he also submitted to the framers a proposal for the qualification requirements in Article II as to the necessary Citizenship status for the office of President and Commander in Chief of the Military.
Alexander Hamiltons suggested presidential eligibility clause:
No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States.
Many of the founders and framers expressed fear of foreign influence on the person who would in the future serve as President of the United States since this particular office was singularly and uniquely powerful under the proposed new Constitution. This question of foreign influence was elevated when John Jay considered the additional power granted to the Presidency during times of war, that is when he serves as Commander in Chief of the military. Jay felt strongly that whoever served as President and Commander In Chief during times of war must owe their sole allegiance to and only to the United States.
Because this fear of foreign influence on a future President and Commander in Chief was strongly felt, Jay took it upon himself to draft a letter to General George Washington, the presiding officer of the Constitutional Convention, recommending/hinting that the framers should strengthen the Citizenship requirements for the office of the President.
John Jay was an avid reader and proponent of natural law and particularly Vattels codification of natural law and the Law of Nations. In his letter to Washington he said that the Citizenship requirement for the office of the commander of our armies should contain a strong check against foreign influence and he recommended to Washington that the command of the military be open only to a natural born Citizen. Thus Jay did not agree that simply being a born Citizen was sufficient enough protection from foreign influence in the singular most powerful office in the new form of government. Rather, Jay wanted to make sure the President and Commander In Chief owed his allegiance solely to the United States of America. He wanted another adjective added to the eligibility clause, i.e., natural. And that word natural goes to the Citizenship status of ones parents via natural law.
Below is the relevant change to Hamiltons proposed language detailed in Jays letter written to George Washington dated 25 July 1787:
Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Command in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.
See a transcription of Jays letter to Washington at this link.
We dont have to accept that. Besides Harris parents separated and her mother took her as a small child to Canada where she was raised. This is exactly why the Founders wrote that into the Constitution. What country is she loyal to?
The same blind eye that permits the killing of full-term babies will be blind to Harris’ illegality to run for President. What should be a slam dunk to deny her the candidacy, is a segment of Americans ruled by gut thinking and is quickly throwing our rational thought. It reminds me of the rise of Nazism.
Wait, which Democrat are you talking about?
This issue is DOA
Then so is the Constitution as we found out during the Kenyanesian Usurpation.
Also, “dated” Willie Brown, then Gov. of California. Got put on to two state commissions via Willie’s “good will” or at least that is how I interpreted it from the news. Basically, that is how she got her start in politics I think.
Rawle's treatise is not just "one man's opinion." Rawle was appointed by George Washington as the first U.S. Attorney for Pennsylvania, and the book I quoted from was the first-ever law book published on the subject of U.S. Constitutional law. So his opinion is a guide to the original understanding of the Constitution's "natural born citizen" language.
No one did shit about the halfrican and no one will do shit about this.
Don’t you get it yet? The federal government has already fallen.
I would like to see a ruling on “anchor babies” as to their legal status to run for any office, let alone the Presidency, and also a determination as to their actual nationality being based on their parentage. Being born here should not render American citizenship automatically. In Scotland (and many other counries) you take your nationality from your father, regardless of where you are actually born. My mother was born in Scotland, but her parents were Irish, so when we immigrated here my brother and I were listed as Scottish and came in on Scotland’s quota, while my mother, also born in Scotland, came in on an Irish quota.
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