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1 posted on 11/13/2018 5:48:13 AM PST by LS
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The swing vote in this election is illegal brown.


2 posted on 11/13/2018 5:53:37 AM PST by hardspunned
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Arizonans need to remember that little Jeffy Flake is a closeted, magic underwear wearing, commie lib “prog”.


3 posted on 11/13/2018 5:55:18 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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I think to really grasp Arizona...a guy would have to move out and spend three years in the state. It’s just an overwhelming number of Democratic voters in southern quarter of the state around Tucson, and around the Flagstaff region.


4 posted on 11/13/2018 5:56:11 AM PST by pepsionice
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This year scared me:

If we lose Texas we’re dead.


5 posted on 11/13/2018 5:58:31 AM PST by gaijin
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My heart goes out to conservatives who live in Arizona.

I have lived in a deep blue state for nearly my entire adult life, and while there is much to love about this area, the beauty, the history, etc...the politics of this state embarrass and disgust me.

To live in a state with a history of politicians like Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Elizabeth Warren, Gerry Studds, Barney Frank, Martha Coakley, Ed Markey (and the Murderers Row of politicians in this state goes on and on) is a difficult thing to bear.

I see our fellow conservatives in California who could make a claim to living in the midst of political infamy as deep as mine and feel their pain, and I see Arizona going the same way.

How sad.

That said, I appreciate the historical context of your thread. Thanks for giving us that, it is good to keep in mind.


6 posted on 11/13/2018 6:00:14 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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Things are never black and white or red or blue. But demographics are destiny. Not just ethnicity, but age along with economic and educational background influence political affiliation.


7 posted on 11/13/2018 6:00:37 AM PST by buckalfa (I was so much older then, but I'am younger than that now.)
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This isn’t the first time in years the Ds outnumber the Rs in House seats. It was that way 2009-2010 and 2013-2014. Also 1993-1994 and 1977-1982.

McSally’s House seat has flopped back and forth. Hasn’t helped that any time a conservative won the primary here, the state and National GOP pulled all funding since they assume a conservative candidate equals a certain loss. It is Democrat again after the GOP ran no ads that I know of until a couple of days before the election.


8 posted on 11/13/2018 6:03:21 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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That all is true, however, Deconcini was not a dyed-in-the-wool Marxist. So while Arizona has a history of electing Democrats, it is the fact that Arizona would elect a far leftist to represent them that is troubling.

If Arizona elected a Zell Miller or even a guy like Joe Manchin, that would at least be more understandable.


12 posted on 11/13/2018 6:07:09 AM PST by mrs9x
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Not buying it. I listened to what you said the past two election cycles about NV and it just didn't pan out the way you thought it would.

I firmly believe the only way the Dems have won in Arizona and Nevada is that they are cheating. It has nothing to do with voting "trends" and everything to do with illegal votes.

13 posted on 11/13/2018 6:08:20 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<---has now left CA for NV, where God/guns have not been outlawed! She's done and he's won!)
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I’m rather surprised that Arizona elected a pink tutu-wearing, Taliban-supporting leftist who maligned the people of her own state over a career Air Force officer who flew combat sorties against those same Taliban and put her own career at risk, fighting against Saudi Arabia’s strict muslim dress requirements for women.

I guess my line of thinking is too archaic and out of step with the “New America.”


16 posted on 11/13/2018 6:10:29 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP: The party of jobs. Democrats: The party of mobs.)
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The lesson of Arizona and Texas 2018 is that unlikable candidates have great difficulty winning, regardless of their ideological purity.

Though it is unfathomable to us that any Republican would vote R straight down the line but cross over and pick Sinema over McSally, obviously quite a few did - because they bought into Sinema’s blow-dried suburbanite makeover and multi-million dollar, out-of-state-funded media messaging.

26 posted on 11/13/2018 6:24:06 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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It was never Red. it was Blue as blue can be as they voted decade after decade for McInsane.


28 posted on 11/13/2018 6:28:00 AM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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29 posted on 11/13/2018 6:30:45 AM PST by GOP Poet
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Actually if you’re going back that far, the most “conservative” Republican states (e.g., in the South) had something of a similar, but generally even more Democrat, background.


31 posted on 11/13/2018 6:36:03 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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The invasion is ongoing. Texas to fall next and when it does the Ds will be America’s lone political choice. RINOs, and their supporters, are to blame for our pending collapse. Supporting Trump is our last chance to save ourselves.


34 posted on 11/13/2018 6:43:58 AM PST by JonPreston
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Your history of Arizona is somewhat misleading. Though the Teddy Roosevelt faction was strong in Arizona, it wasn’t strong enough to stop the Democrats from ending the Arizona Rangers while Roosevelt was president. The Rangers had greatly reduced crime in Arizona but were opposed by local sheriffs and politicians who saw the Rangers as an enemy, and one that impeded the usual corrupt way of doing business in the state. The like-minded moneyed men have run things ever since (and that included the multi-millionaire Goldwater, and more recently John McCain).


36 posted on 11/13/2018 6:46:04 AM PST by Bookshelf
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It didn't last long. Fannin stepped down in 1976 and another Democrat Dennis DeConcini replaced him.

The GOP should have won that race and held onto the seat but for a vicious and nasty primary fight between two Republican Congressmen, Sam Steiger and John Conlan--both solid conservatives--that spilled more blood than the Battle of the Somme. By the time Steiger won the nomination, the anger of the sullen Conlan partisans made it worthless. De Concini went on to do tremendous damage to our country such as serving as a key figure in the Panama Canal giveaway.

38 posted on 11/13/2018 7:00:53 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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While Arizona was a Republican state, it came from the Progressive/TR/Taft wing.

The entire contemporary Right Wing was originally progressive (and vice versa).

In the 1690's the eastern seaboard was burning witches. One hundred years later it was conducting the first "red scare" in American history, with people like Rev. Timothy Dwight (President of Yale) and Rev. Jedidiah Morse (Samul F.B.'s father) seeing Illuminati, Freemasons, and "French atheists" under every bed. The ancestors of today's conservatives were derided as atheistic Jacobins who would confiscate and burn all Bibles if their man Jefferson was ever elected. A generation later the Whigs made similar accusations against the Jacksonians.

In the 1890's the eastern seaboard was quaking in its boots over the "Jacobin" William Jennings Bryan, whose creationism threatened the Social Darwinism that was used to justify their beliefs. They even had a bunch of alienists (and psychiatrists, psychologists, and therapists were known at the time) to declare Bryan "insane." Sound familiar?

Then during the New Deal something happened. The Eastern Seaboard discovered in New Deal statism a more useful argument for centralization and elitism than the old Hamiltonian conservatism had been. Suddenly the children of the old "robber barons" of the Gilded Age were Secretly Behind Communism. And the old Reds of the 1920s were now the "Old Right."

As a Hamiltonian myself, drawing these lines gives me no joy. But it's time to admit that the most radical sector of American society is its old aristocracy. They have shifted the Left from supporting industrial workers to upper class causes like environmentalism and homosexuality (which the Old Left called "bourgeois decadence"), the repudiation of Old Left populism (initiative and referendum, recall), and the constant vilification the working class and celebration scabs (ie, "people of color," "immigrants," "refugees," "indigenous pipples").

In my former life as a chrstian, I was very attracted to the Theocratic anarchism of the J-- Witnesses precisely because the old establishment was so radical it was easy to believe they were in cahoots with "Lucifer" from the beginning.

42 posted on 11/13/2018 7:06:20 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ("Conservatism" without G-d is just another form of Communism.)
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Free Republic is a quantum above the other conservative news aggregator boards because of the quality of readers’ comments, but also because of vanities like yours that cover topics that would be otherwise missed.

I moved my family to Phoenix recently, and I am still trying to get the feel for the political climate. Pieces like yours help. I also appreciate that native Arizonans are proud of their being lifelong citizens of the state, but (at least in Phoenix) don’t hold all newcomers in derision.


43 posted on 11/13/2018 7:12:18 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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I’m not sure, as usual, Maricopa County, had all legit + legal + alive voters. Can anyone explain the 350K vote swing to Sinema there any way other than massive vote fraud? The DEMs went overboard with their shenanigans this time!


44 posted on 11/13/2018 7:13:46 AM PST by Steven W.
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