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Posted on 11/06/2018 5:15:03 AM PST by deandg99
The red flag laws allow law enforcement to seek a court order to temporarily restrict people’s access to firearms when they show “red flags” that they are a danger to themselves or others.
In Maryland, the problem must be reported by either a relative, other household residents like roommates, or health care professionals. So, the cops didn’t just break in and shoot the guy. It had to be reported that he was a noted risk by those close to him or health professional. It went through the court procedures for determination, and an attempt was made to carry out the determination. These laws were put in place by the state legislators and were co-written by twenty-six representatives that were elected. The National Rifle Association has even claimed to favor some of these laws.
There is no law that is designed as a true fix for anything other than carrying out capital punishment. The article doesn’t identify what the grounds were for the court to remove his weapons or who it was filed by. But the cops can’t do it themselves unless it was connect with a crime. And this article was about the use of State senate bill 707, not crime.
What we do know by the article is he was in possession of a fire arm, put it down, then went back to it and the weapon in the struggle to get it away from him discharged and he was shot at that point. The cops coming in would, I’m sure, have rather been at the coffee stand with a donut than wrestling with a man armed with a handgun. So this wasn’t personal as far as we can see. It was the carrying out of laws placed into effect by the voters’ choice of people to make these decisions and the shooter became a danger to himself and the cops. If he had fought it in court rather than in his living room, it might have been different. He’d be alive.
Sometimes it is better to work with the law rather than physically resist. They weren’t there to arrest him, just relieve him of his first line opportunity to harm himself or others as determined by a court from family and/or medical pros.
Somewhere along the line, he proved himself dangerous. I wouldn’t want him to own or carry a gun either. It’s one thing to get the determination changed for the legal action. It’s another to cause your death by physically resisting. That in itself raises a red flag.
rwood
This isn’t the first time that the gestapo came to execute this unconstitutional order in MD.
“Since the new gun confiscation law went into effect on October 1st, police have carried out 19 such confiscation orders, which comes out to around one such seizure every other day.”
I’m glad he fought back. Unfortunately law enforcement won’t stop executing these unconstitutional dangerous orders until they themselves experience casualties.
LEOs take an oath to defend the constitution. They should know better and unless they wise up, they will reap the whirlwind.
You didn’t create the article. So why didn’t you post the whole thing?
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The man, whose name was not released, answered his door in the 100 block of Linwood Ave. at 5:17 a.m. with a gun in his hand, said Sgt. Jacklyn Davis, an Anne Arundel County Police spokeswoman.
He initially put it down, but then picked it up again, she said.
“A fight ensued over the gun,” Davis said.
During the struggle, the gun went off but did not strike anyone. At that point, the officers fatally shot the man, she said. No officers were injured, police said.
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The man killed was Gary Willis, a longtime resident of the neighborhood, said Michele Willis, who was on the scene Monday morning and identified herself as his niece.
The new protective orders, which family members, police or others may seek to temporarily prohibit people’s access to firearms when they show red flags that they are a danger to themselves or others, went into effect Oct. 1.
OK, does that sound anything like Mr. Willis’ rights that are to be protected under the Fifth Amendment?
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No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Nope, sounds nothing like it. There was no due process of law as these officers attempted to rob this man in broad daylight of his property. Mr. Willis was not indicted, convicted or otherwise accused of a crime, was he? Nope.
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These brownshirts were merely following orders, unlawful orders I might add, just like the Nazis before them, and lest you think I’m too strong in my wording, how many of you reading this think they were in the right? How many of you reading this believe Mr. Willis should have just surrendered to the bandits? How many of you think he should have just been polite? I know the only polite thing would have been to close the door on them and come back when they had a warrant due to a crime being committed.
This is about to get a lot worse in places around the country that buy into these lawless red flag “laws.”
My friend and author David Risselada has written extensively on Red Flag “laws.” If you are unfamiliar with them and how they are stepping stones to full gun confiscation, I suggest you read these two pieces.
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He only proved himself dangerous when he was accosted in his home by jackbooted thugs trying to steal his property.
They had no warrant and so had no reason to be at his door in the first place.
If he had committed a crime it would be a different story, but he did not.
We cannot, according to our constitution, pre-emptively arrest people for crimes they “might” commit. We cannot let the liberals get into that mindset else every Patriot will be behind bars for some future offense.
Stories like these make me want to invest in a ballistic resistant door.
A really Big One!
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Who in their right mind would do that? Maybe the Red Flag was needed in this case.
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Someone comes a ‘knocking’ on your door @ 5AM...
Then install the door yourself without attracting anyone’s attention if at all possible as some places don’t allow such doors.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mkWJ3wUd5u8
Folks in Alaska install anti bear doors. A side benefit is swat denial. LOL. So much for the element of surprise...
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Drove out of the Peoples Republic of Maryland on 09 October.. to retire in Georgia. Maryland is a liberal shxthole.
I read a Day in a The Life...46 years ago I think
He was so prescient .
He may not have known who was knocking - it depends on how his home is laid out. It's a bad law and bad decisions combining to produce the expected bad consequences. I hope the person who reported him feels guilty for the rest of his (her?) life.
At 05:17 I would be armed also!!! This is BS. There is no reason for this to happen at that hour, 08:00 - 17:00 I probably won’t be holding a Firearm.
Did the cops ID themselves ? Probably Not. From the Article there was NO Search Warrant either. And it’s UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!
How many in here with a defense firearm will throw open their door in the dark without it after being woke up at 5am by pounding on your front door ? These cops approached this with the attitude they use on an early morning drug raid. Unless this guy was known as a hothead with anti cop prior encounters, these cops used lousy judgement for a non criminal action.
Over here.
Double Jeopardy.
Or some Claymores.
Sometimes it is better to work with the law rather than physically resist. They weren’t there to arrest him, just relieve him of his first line opportunity to harm himself or others as determined by a court from family and/or medical pros.
Somewhere along the line, he proved himself dangerous. I wouldn’t want him to own or carry a gun either. It’s one thing to get the determination changed for the legal action. It’s another to cause your death by physically resisting. That in itself raises a red flag.
That's an awful lot of assumptions. Even goes into the realm of thought crime, because we don't know if the guy committed a crime beforehand. Should we now allow ourselves to submit to checks before we ask the government to allow us to exercise our God-given Natural Rights?
Get a heavy wood door with a heavy-duty double-bolt system, that locks both on the side of the knob, as well as top and bottom. Obviously, also make sure the frame is sufficiently strengthened.
"...opening the door to pounding at 5:00 am..."
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