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To: Swordmaker

If you think Apple hasn’t allowed the Chinese control over Apple’s cloud in China, YOU’RE delusional.

https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2018/01/16/icloud-in-china/

https://mashable.com/2018/02/24/apple-icloud-china-encryption-keys/?utm_cid=a-seealso#zmoVeg7Lykqo

Apple Mail compared to Eudora is a joke. You can’t manage whether a glanced over email in your inbox shows up as “read” to the sender without 3rd party software that crashes (or playing with Terminal), you can’t click-sort in different columns without many multiple actions, the Smart mailboxes AREN’T (no real boolean choices).

Contacts can’t be searched or sorted on multiple fields.

(I can’t even drag in groups of names into a Group).

And YES we know APPLE doesn’t make the stupid, mind-numbing games that are destroying generations of kids, they just make BILLIONS selling them for the developers in the App store.

And check your tone, pal, I’m not one of your Windoze nutjobs whining about “apple fanboys”, I am simply pointing out the facts about a Mercedes Marxist pervert running a company that I depend on into the swamp.

(Haven’t even brought back up Apple joining with the the rest of the tech oligarch SCUM throwing off Alex Jones and demonetizing other First and Second Amendment groups WHILE LEAVING UP JIHADI FILTH like Farrakhan.


37 posted on 10/04/2018 12:31:43 PM PDT by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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To: BTerclinger
Your first article you link is from January 2018, and is pure speculation, short on facts, stuff the author pulled out of his belly button lint. worthless. The facts were released by Apple in February 2018 when they announced exactly where, as I told you, the encryption keys were to be stored, in Apple China's Corporate Headquarters in Beijing, as the Chinese law requires.

Your second article from Mashable is from February 24, 2018, and provides you with the answer the useless belly button lint picker didn't. It's title tells the truth and implications: "Applee's iCloud account privacy may be at risk once Apple complies with new laws" but even that was designed to scare people who read only headlines because many people read it and did not know it referred to the China iCloud only. I had to tell many people who were convinced that ALL of their data was being outsourced to China by Apple because of such irresponsible headlines. Lets see what the second paragraph said:

"That means text message, emails, and other data stored in the cloud will be physically housed on Chinese soil. Importantly, it also means that the cryptographic keys required to unlock an iCloud account will live in China as well."

Well what do you know. . . nothing about handing those keys over to the Chinese government there, is there? Let's look at the fourth paragraph:

"Moving the keys to a data center in China means that authorities can seek access to iCloud accounts using the local legal system instead. This is a worry to human rights and privacy advocates, who fear what the country's looser privacy restrictions and the broad powers held by local authorities might mean."

Again, the Chinese still have to go through LEGAL channels, even if they are not the same as our legal channels. I like how the couch that in such loaded terms as "local" implying a "lesser" legal, shall we say, "non-legitimate," system, don't you?

The fact is that China is neither our courts' nor our laws' jurisdiction. . . and Apple has always complied with Chinese court's orders despite where the encryption keys were housed. The single time a human rights attorney trued to haul such a thing into a US court it was tossed out for lack of jurisdiction.

38 posted on 10/05/2018 3:45:48 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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