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Apple CEO: Government needs to step in and regulate privacy
The Blaze ^ | Mike Ciandella

Posted on 10/03/2018 7:14:08 PM PDT by TBP

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Shut this creature up.


21 posted on 10/03/2018 10:26:30 PM PDT by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam ; Dems may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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I’ve got an idea. How about you techie giants stop selling your customers’ private info to the highest bidders.


22 posted on 10/03/2018 10:38:38 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: TBP
Privacy is central to liberty, so we need the government to regulate it. Does that even make sense?

We may indeed need to pass laws enforcing privacy rights, since tech companies like Facebook and Google build entire business models on the abrogation of our privacy. Cook has been a harsh critic of Facebook's privacy invasions and he is on the right side of this.
23 posted on 10/03/2018 11:03:50 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Swordmaker

” I think his meaning is that the government needs to dome to regulate /prevent THE INVASIONS OF PRIVACY that many tech companies currently engage in. “

Any Big IT calling for ‘free speech’ is the opposite.


24 posted on 10/04/2018 12:34:03 AM PDT by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Avenue.)
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To: TBP

No regulation, just jail the perps.

Jail Tim Cook and Zuckerberg for wire fraud.


25 posted on 10/04/2018 12:43:18 AM PDT by TheNext (Anonymous Source)
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To: Shethink13
I’ve got an idea. How about you techie giants stop selling your customers’ private info to the highest bidders.

How about you inform yourself about Apple's privacy policy before you make more of a fool of yourself. Apple doesn't sell data. They sell hardware and content, not their customers' data. . . so they don't even collect it.

26 posted on 10/04/2018 1:09:02 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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I don’t excuse Microsoft, and I dont believe China is just “hosting” the keys.
Cook is an ASS.

He set up links for people to donate to the far-left SPLC and the ADL (and I am Jewish, the ADL has been a commie disgrace for years).

I have told you repeatedly - I am a long time Apple user, but that doesn’t mean I have to sit back and kiss that sodomite Cook’s rear end.

As far as I am concerned, Apple’s failure to improve their core Mac apps like Contacts and Mail is directly linked to Cook’s FAILED management style, which has focussed on sucking up to China, and selling GARBAGE GAME APPS instead of improving the Mac and iPhone.


27 posted on 10/04/2018 2:50:13 AM PDT by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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Less government and regulation is always preferred.
The USA isn’t China and we certainly don’t want government social monitors.


28 posted on 10/04/2018 5:20:04 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3693509/posts


29 posted on 10/04/2018 9:21:18 AM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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I have told you repeatedly - I am a long time Apple user, but that doesn’t mean I have to sit back and kiss that sodomite Cook’s rear end.

As far as I am concerned, Apple’s failure to improve their core Mac apps like Contacts and Mail is directly linked to Cook’s FAILED management style, which has focussed on sucking up to China, and selling GARBAGE GAME APPS instead of improving the Mac and iPhone.

What you said...thanks!!!!

30 posted on 10/04/2018 9:25:00 AM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Swordmaker

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3693496/posts


31 posted on 10/04/2018 9:28:33 AM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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I don’t excuse Microsoft, and I dont believe China is just “hosting” the keys.

What evidence do you have to counter that fact? Apple has made several statements to that fact and THAT is what Chinese LAW requires.

So your Apple DERANGEMENT requires you to jump to the conclusion that Apple is going to do something the law in CHINA does NOT REQUIRE THEM TO DO???? Why in HELL would they do that? Please tell us what company in would risk a STOCK HOLDER SUIT and the very DIRE PERSONAL FINES from the SARBANES OXLEY ACT of 2002 to make an official statement such as has been stated that "Apple is keeping the Chinese Encryption Keys in our Apple office" and LYING about it? Sarbanes Oxley REQUIRES personal fines and prison terms of up to $20 million and 20 years for ANY management personnel who makes a statement that is false.

Believing an official statement of a CORPORATION about the operation of that corporation is NOT kissing the rear end of a sodomite, BTerclinger. It's accepting the facts for what they are instead of the RUMORS pushed by idiot FAKE NEWS. . . so QUIT PUSHING THE FAKE NEWS!

As far as I am concerned, Apple’s failure to improve their core Mac apps like Contacts and Mail is directly linked to Cook’s FAILED management style, which has focussed on sucking up to China, and selling GARBAGE GAME APPS instead of improving the Mac and iPhone.

MAIL works fine for me and so does CONTACTs. What problems do YOU think you have with them?

And apparently you haven't been paying attention to the vast improvements in the iPhone.

What "garbage GAME app" does Apple even publish and sell itself?

32 posted on 10/04/2018 9:39:22 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3693509/posts

Thanks for the link, Shethink13, but that chip was not installed in any of Apple's products.

It was being installed in Chinese designed mother boards for products designed and made for generic computers and mobile devices. Apple designs all if its products from the ground up, including its logic boards and major integrated chips.

Where Apple was going to be impacted was they were buying another company's dedicated rack servers for their server data farms for iCloud. The was the company that was to make the 30,000 mother boards for servers Apple was going to install in its server farms which was found by Amazon was inserting the surreptitious spy chip was a Chinese company named Supermicro. Apple had ordered 30,000 rack mounted servers from a third party company which were going to be made by Supermicro that was apparently inserting the chip on its motherboards destined to be used for the servers.

Just as Amazon did, Apple FOUND the spurious chip (perhaps they were warned by Amazon) in sample servers and immediately cancelled the order and severed its relationship with the supplier, in 2015. Read the article. It lays out the "almost" impact it would have had on Apple's servers. . . but Apple dodged the bullet, because their engineers are proactive, just as Amazon's were in diligently checking what they were going to buy.

Apple designs and monitors the manufacturing of every logic board goes into their products, inspecting them at every step. In addition, tear down specialists dissect Apple's logic boards, especially their mobile product, which use Systems on a Chip (SoC), which are DESIGNED BY APPLE in California, and not made in China. A chip inserted on a logic board would stick out like a sore thumb in Apple's quality control checks as they are computer controlled comparisons between reference photos of the original layout and the production version. Any change, such as an added chip, would raise a red flag.

Please post the entire article on Freerepublic and I will ping the Apple Ping List members to your posting as this is an important article. Since it's a Bloomberg article, you'll have to make it a link only article, by leaving the link blank and putting the link in the body. Don't quote anything from the article. Just say something on what it's about. Thanks.

33 posted on 10/04/2018 10:13:18 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Shethink13
What you said...thanks!!!!

Frankly, why was said is wrong.

34 posted on 10/04/2018 10:14:42 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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So I should not be concerned about buying the new Apple Watch? Because I had every intention of doing so until I saw this.


35 posted on 10/04/2018 12:18:34 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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Please post the entire article on Freerepublic and I will ping the Apple Ping List members to your posting as this is an important article.

The link IS from a free republic thread. I'm not sure why you can't just ping on that thread.

36 posted on 10/04/2018 12:20:35 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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If you think Apple hasn’t allowed the Chinese control over Apple’s cloud in China, YOU’RE delusional.

https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2018/01/16/icloud-in-china/

https://mashable.com/2018/02/24/apple-icloud-china-encryption-keys/?utm_cid=a-seealso#zmoVeg7Lykqo

Apple Mail compared to Eudora is a joke. You can’t manage whether a glanced over email in your inbox shows up as “read” to the sender without 3rd party software that crashes (or playing with Terminal), you can’t click-sort in different columns without many multiple actions, the Smart mailboxes AREN’T (no real boolean choices).

Contacts can’t be searched or sorted on multiple fields.

(I can’t even drag in groups of names into a Group).

And YES we know APPLE doesn’t make the stupid, mind-numbing games that are destroying generations of kids, they just make BILLIONS selling them for the developers in the App store.

And check your tone, pal, I’m not one of your Windoze nutjobs whining about “apple fanboys”, I am simply pointing out the facts about a Mercedes Marxist pervert running a company that I depend on into the swamp.

(Haven’t even brought back up Apple joining with the the rest of the tech oligarch SCUM throwing off Alex Jones and demonetizing other First and Second Amendment groups WHILE LEAVING UP JIHADI FILTH like Farrakhan.


37 posted on 10/04/2018 12:31:43 PM PDT by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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Your first article you link is from January 2018, and is pure speculation, short on facts, stuff the author pulled out of his belly button lint. worthless. The facts were released by Apple in February 2018 when they announced exactly where, as I told you, the encryption keys were to be stored, in Apple China's Corporate Headquarters in Beijing, as the Chinese law requires.

Your second article from Mashable is from February 24, 2018, and provides you with the answer the useless belly button lint picker didn't. It's title tells the truth and implications: "Applee's iCloud account privacy may be at risk once Apple complies with new laws" but even that was designed to scare people who read only headlines because many people read it and did not know it referred to the China iCloud only. I had to tell many people who were convinced that ALL of their data was being outsourced to China by Apple because of such irresponsible headlines. Lets see what the second paragraph said:

"That means text message, emails, and other data stored in the cloud will be physically housed on Chinese soil. Importantly, it also means that the cryptographic keys required to unlock an iCloud account will live in China as well."

Well what do you know. . . nothing about handing those keys over to the Chinese government there, is there? Let's look at the fourth paragraph:

"Moving the keys to a data center in China means that authorities can seek access to iCloud accounts using the local legal system instead. This is a worry to human rights and privacy advocates, who fear what the country's looser privacy restrictions and the broad powers held by local authorities might mean."

Again, the Chinese still have to go through LEGAL channels, even if they are not the same as our legal channels. I like how the couch that in such loaded terms as "local" implying a "lesser" legal, shall we say, "non-legitimate," system, don't you?

The fact is that China is neither our courts' nor our laws' jurisdiction. . . and Apple has always complied with Chinese court's orders despite where the encryption keys were housed. The single time a human rights attorney trued to haul such a thing into a US court it was tossed out for lack of jurisdiction.

38 posted on 10/05/2018 3:45:48 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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