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Wheres the DECLASS? (Vanity)
10/1/18 | DrDude

Posted on 10/01/2018 3:07:30 PM PDT by DrDude

17 days ago there was a big Storm coming. 14 days ago the POTUS announced that the Declassification of numerous documents would take place immediately. These documents were to be released "forthwidth". Where's the beef?


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: declass; declassification; fbi; fisa; impeachment; potus; walkedback
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To: House Atreides

And THAT is the reason why it all SHOULD be released — to let them know that it will NEVER AGAIN be tolerated. Release it ALL.

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Thank you. I couldn’t agree more.

But I think we’re being played a little. There’s something going on I fear. Consider the players involved in the delay: Rosenstein, our “allies” abroad, and the dubious IG. Something’s not right.


21 posted on 10/01/2018 3:28:40 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: DrDude

Just wait until after Kavanough is in. It will happen quickly then.


22 posted on 10/01/2018 3:30:40 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Cementjungle

Dunno... must be more to it than we know.

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Then we should know.

What could be more important the American people knowing the details behind a plot to undermine our elections and remove a president? We need to know everything. Or...it will happen again and we might not be so lucky next time.


23 posted on 10/01/2018 3:30:55 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: DrDude
14 days ago?

If Trump had released the unredacted FISA documents 14 months ago, it would have put the FBI, DOJ, and Mueller's Band of Merry Zealots on permanent tilt.

Instead, Trump just ordered the politically corrupt FBI to investigate Brett Kavanaugh.

Round Two - anyone care to speculate on what kind of inflammatory BS the corrupt DOJ and Robert Mueller will leak before the Midterm Election?

If Republicans can hold on to a majority in both the House and Senate after everything that has happened in the last two years, it will truly be a miracle.

24 posted on 10/01/2018 3:31:21 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

After Kav sworn in, the dam breaks ...


25 posted on 10/01/2018 3:36:34 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: zeestephen

Imagine if the FISA docs HAD been released two weeks ago? They would have provided a lot of new leads for sleuths, congressional investigators and Judicial Watch to explore.

By delaying we are losing invaluable opportunities to expose the cabal. How is this a good thing?


26 posted on 10/01/2018 3:40:39 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Col Frank Slade

After Kav sworn in, the dam breaks ...

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The IG can sit on this for a long time. We may not see much of anything for quite awhile, and even then it will be dripped out little by little.


27 posted on 10/01/2018 3:42:49 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: DesertRhino

Wrong Answer. The Dclass docs getting released is the Trump October surprise.


28 posted on 10/01/2018 3:43:40 PM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: DrDude

The perps are all under house arrest and just waiting for their transfer to the new Gitmo facilities.


29 posted on 10/01/2018 3:43:48 PM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: Starboard
Re: “Who trusts the IG? Anyone?”

Obama appointed the IG, so the Democrats obviously trust him.

John Huber, who is assisting the IG in the alleged Hillary investigation, was also appointed by Obama.

And, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein was the chief of Obama’s Uranium One investigation.

So, obviously, Trump trusts all of them, because Trump retained or promoted all of them.

30 posted on 10/01/2018 3:45:51 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Starboard

Best I can tell. Sh!t happens. Timing ain’t good. RR is digging a deeper hole. Patience is a virtue.


31 posted on 10/01/2018 3:47:30 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: Starboard
It ain’t happening folks.

12D chess, man! Pay attention!

32 posted on 10/01/2018 3:48:31 PM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: Col Frank Slade
Re: “After Kav sworn in, the dam breaks.”

I am on the record predicting that Kavanaugh will lose the confirmation vote, or withdraw before it happens.

I hope I will have to eat my words and apologize to everyone on this thread.

But since I see absolutely no fighting spirit in Trump, in the GOP leadership, or, most shockingly, in the majority of Comments on this thread, I think the political future for Conservatives is very grim.

33 posted on 10/01/2018 4:05:14 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: rigelkentaurus
Emphasis mine.

I would imagine that our President...

That is very comforting. Thanks!

34 posted on 10/01/2018 4:15:11 PM PDT by upchuck (... I'd be toast in the next primary if I openly challenged my party's orthodoxy ~ CongressmanX)
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To: DrDude

Need Kav on th SC fist. Needed to maintain a quorum (6). Three will be carted off to jail.


35 posted on 10/01/2018 4:58:40 PM PDT by smoky415
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To: fatman6502002

The Dclass docs getting released is the Trump October surprise.

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Trump cannot force the documents out of the IG. They will take their sweet time. Besides, its clear they do not fear him. Their last report was mostly a whitewash.

More likely they fear Rosenstein since the IG is an organizational element within the DOJ, and Rosensten is still there running the DOJ because Sessions has recused himself from his job.

So I wouldn’t count on this being an October surprise. The reality is that Trump has very little control over the FBI and DOJ. He has been oddly reluctant to assert his executive control over these two rogue agencies.


36 posted on 10/01/2018 5:39:38 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

Note the “and Congress” line.

https://oig.justice.gov/about/

...The Office of the Inspector General (OIG) in the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) is a statutorily created independent entity...

...The Inspector General, who is appointed by the President subject to Senate confirmation, reports to the Attorney General and Congress...


37 posted on 10/01/2018 5:45:09 PM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: jjotto
The key phrase is "in the U.S. Department of Justice".

By law, Inspectors General function under the general supervision of the agency head or deputy. The "independent" part comes from the fact that neither the agency head nor the deputy can prevent or prohibit an Inspector General from conducting an audit or investigation.

Have you ever worked in a federal agency with an IG and/or observed their audits? There are certain realities that govern what they do.

38 posted on 10/01/2018 6:08:27 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

You’re way off base. Trump said in his announcement he can declassify the docs anytime he wants if he’s not satisfied with how long its taking. I doubt you even read his entire statement about the Dclass docs. Then again after reading your drivel it is apparent you’re not very well informed.


39 posted on 10/01/2018 6:24:13 PM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: fatman6502002
I did in fact read it and even referenced in several comments in FR over the past two weeks. The White House itself posted this:

"At the request of a number of committees of Congress, and for reasons of transparency, the President has directed the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to provide for the immediate declassification of the following materials: (1) pages 10-12 and 17-34 of the June 2017 application to the FISA court in the matter of Carter W. Page; (2) all FBI reports of interviews with Bruce G. Ohr prepared in connection with the Russia investigation; and (3) all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with all Carter Page FISA applications.

In addition, President Donald J. Trump has directed the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to publicly release all text messages relating to the Russia investigation, without redaction, of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr."

Note the phrase "immediate declassification". This is a directive from the president of the United States. Do you think its a good idea for him to make an order like this and not enforce it?

Also, spear me the cheap and defensive ad hominem attacks. They severely diminish your credibility and don't advance what should be a constructive discussion. But if they make you feel better, then I guess that's just your thing.

40 posted on 10/01/2018 6:56:42 PM PDT by Starboard
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